I took a couple logic classes at UW. The intro Logic 120 class, and then an upper level class to satisfy a graduation requirement. I don't really see that either political platform leans heavily on logic, and I certainly don't see that one party has an edge in using logic to promote policy.

More likely, this is a case of confirmation bias coupled with a little bit of the false consensus effect. You lean right, Keith - so of course you think the right is more logical. It wouldn't make any sense if you said otherwise.

I don't like Trump and I won't pretend that logic has anything to do with it. YMMV

I hear you. Logic tells me I'm right every time.

I took a couple logic classes at UW. The intro Logic 120 class, and then an upper level class to satisfy a graduation requirement. I don't really see that either political platform leans heavily on logic, and I certainly don't see that one party has an edge in using logic to promote policy.

More likely, this is a case of confirmation bias coupled with a little bit of the false consensus effect. You lean right, Keith - so of course you think the right is more logical. It wouldn't make any sense if you said otherwise.

I don't like Trump and I won't pretend that logic has anything to do with it. YMMV

I will admit I did not read every word but these are the parts that made me think Trump is the Rat King:

- A lot of the specific type information on the computers of Trump’s people that the investigation wanted was deleted and furthermore was kept in special encryption software ready for a clean wipe.

- When Trump found out about the investigation he said, and this is a quote, “Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m [Bleeeeep!].”

All of that does not paint the picture of an honest group of people nor an honest President.

Hey, I took that class too. Good ole "if P, then Q. If Q, then R. Therefore, if P, then R."

We're reading most everything subconsciously looking for confirmation bia. That doesn't prevent logic though. Analytical thinking is intuitive to some of us, and an alien concept to others.

As for logic in politics, Trump said himself during the campaign that he campaigned the way he did because people vote based on their emotions, not on logic. And that's why he panders to his base of deplorable, low information voters, who don't care a whit for truth, logic, or hold him accountable for flip-flopping his own stories.

And Keith, that link of yours to the IQ story states that the Harvard survey was entirely fictitious.

A politician and honesty don't go hand in hand. It never has and never will.

Deception and fear mongering is what it's all about. Creating the tribalism discussed above. Both parties do it.

It's just too bad so many sheep in this world flock to safety or what they'd call safety because they don't bear the intellectual understanding or have the brains to find the truth or recognize right and wrong. The sheep will continue to follow the lead and believe everything they're told.

There will be a breaking point in the next 20-30 years. The days coming...

Keith

Too dumb to be a democrat, too smart to be a republican...

...or the other way around?

I sure hope Trump has a real smart guy chirping in his ear aiding in these tariff decisions.

Huh

I could have sworn it was lower tax rates and cheaper labor that sent manufacturing jobs overseas.

Live and learn, I guess.

Manufacturing follows cheap labor, and tariffs won't change that.

It's been studied. The facts are clear. Tariffs lead to higher consumer prices and net job losses and that's all they fuckin' do.

Retard Trump thinks tariffs are a remedy to the trade imbalance. That's because he was too busy back in college being a twat and spending all his daddy's money to study international trade and economic policy.

Trump has his own sh!t made in China, and you dopes suck his dick. Pathetic.

I think anyone that votes for Trump is a fuckin' fool. Not that Democrats will have a better candidate, but I'd rather smash my dick with a hammer than vote for Mr. Silver Spoon so-called billionaire retarded dumbfucker whose daddy GAVE him a half billion dollars and that lazy toad was too lame and stupid to out-earn simply putting it in a mutual fund. What a pitiful fuckin' loser. No wonder his dad hated him.

Go ahead - vote for him. The whole west coast is solid blue and your vote doesn't mean [Bleeeeep!] unless you're in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, or Florida anyway.

Plus, the fuckin' loser doesn't have a dog. A president of the United States without a dog. That should tell you all you need to know unless you're a cat person.