This thread has taken a turn for the...better. Not a usual occurrence on the Dark Side.



What makes you think I was talking about you? Was it the talk about living in your mom's double wide in a trailer park as a grown ass man?

Seems like a strange thing to be proud of, but if the shoe fits...

Fish on...

Todd

no, it was the Puyallup river part....

whats funny about when people talk sh!t about the Puyallup, especially when they say its only a flossing river, and that anyone that fishes it is an idiot, literally knows dick about fishing...

in the 60s it was the number 2 river in the state, and at one point in the 80s i think, it was the number 1 river in the state...

anyways, im going down there, have fun talking about other dudes on the internet....

Evo seems upset about beer, Clamato juice, the Puyallup, that avatar that makes him look like a potato in a onesie, and his confusion about what the word literally means.

Why would i be mad? I've never been denied a ride at a fair, and I've never drank beer with a chaser....


You go girl...

Evo is it pronounced Pull Yall Up? Was it number one for steelhead or other species in the 80s?

In Nor Cal there is the Mad river. Flossing became super popular in the late 80s. At one time it was a vibrant river ,and at times it can be good for beautiful wild steelhead,though few fish in it's stretches above the hatchery. It has a small run of pink salmon,runs of coho and chinook,hatchery winter steelhead and wild summer fall and winter steelhead. Most people only know the lower,levied, urban hatchery stream. There are many river like this. Evo I hear you,if you are willing to hike a little and get away from the knuckleheads,good fishing in relative solitude can await you.

Pew Al Up.... Steelhead.....

Where did you catch the trout in your avatar?

I never said you were mad. The word was "upset". Google it.

Why would you be mad?

Because you don't know what 'literally' means and you don't know what a chaser is?

If those aren't it, I can provide an extensive list of other things.

Let me know.

The Puyallup ranked high in steelhead harvest in the 60s and 80s. Probably the 50s too, but I don't think I've seen records back that far. There are two reasons why the Puyallup ranked high. First, it is close to urban areas, so it was within easy reach and access to large numbers of anglers. It wasn't necessarily more productive of steelhead than other similar sized river systems. Second, it produced a lot of steelhead in the 80s because it received massive plants of hatchery steelhead during a time period when smolt to adult return rates were good, and it was close to a large number of anglers.

Third, if Evo's mom really loved Evo, she would put all his belongings out on the front porch (not that most trailers really have traditional porches) and change the locks. Tough love is the best love for deadbeats cuz it forces them to grow up and take their rightful place in society by, for instance, supporting themselves.

high harvest rates are due to high return rates, which has nothing to do with urban areas...

in 2015 they counted over 2500 redds which was the highest observed in 25 years... those were WILD fish, as VCH hasn't released any substantial number of steelhead since 2008... 3 years ago they released a few, but you cant find record of it, 2 years ago they released 10k which you can find record of, and guess what? some small steelhead are actually being caught right now....

third, you dont know what the fvck goes on in this house, so i suggest you keep your salmo gonorrhea to yourself....

Huh? Rivers closer to metropolitan areas have higher encounter rates just by the shear nature of angler numbers (pressure). It most certainly does have something to do with the final numbers. It's not the whole story (plants, ocean conditions, returns, etc.), but it is a contributing factor. This is basic algebra here.

lol

Evo, upset and struggling with math.

Puyallup in the 60s was hardly an urban area... Hell even the 80s... Sh!t even when we moved here 14 years ago it wasn't as bad as it is now, and getting worse daily...

There has been 4 times the amountof people in areas i fish this year than any time I've lived here... There used to be about 20 of us in some areas and now it's well beyond that....

The spawning grounds in South prairie creek are still fine, it's the nets that beat this river up....

There are still 25 plus pound fish in this system...

I've never caught a fish, I wouldn't know....

So a deadbeat dropout with no degree in fisheries biology thinks it's a good idea to argue fisheries biology with an actual fisheries biologist.

What a dumb ass.

Who has more experience cutting down trees, the CEO of Simpson timber or the loggers that cut down the trees?

This is perfection.

No this is perfection....

Let me guess.

Your God Father, the esteemed Chef Jean Sean La'Douche, once taught Gordon Ramsey at North Oxfordshire Technical College and failed him because Gordon didn't let his steak rest for exactly 3 minutes and 14 seconds? Gordon got mad and went at him with a steak knife. Your God Father, who has very dangerous, expert level knife skills was able to wrist break the knife away from Gordon. Afterwards they became best friends and went to the pub together for some pints and footy watchin'. He doesn't like to talk about it though, because war is hell and he'll get trouble with the government if he talks too much. But it doesn't matter anyway, because you once cooked Top Ramen and as an expert Chef, you know the only proper way to rest steaks is for exactly 3 minutes and 15 seconds.

Am I close?