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#1054263 - 07/22/21 11:49 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: stlhdr1]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: DBS
Originally Posted By: Illahee
The plan I read was for two years junior college or trade school free.


That's about as far as I'd go. And it should be based on need. If your parents have lots of money, you don't qualify. Otherwise it would cost too much for tax payers.

There is a responsibility for parents who decide to have kids, that they should prepare themselves to support those kids' education...or just don't have them. And if the ultrasound shows you going to have a lazy deadbeat fat fvck, terminate the pregnancy.


Or is it full circle back to how a child turns out is a direct result of how they're raised?

Wouldn't that be something, run the ultrasound and the deadbeat meter pegs, so terminate... Pretty much every democrat wouldn't have kids in the future... rofl

Keith


I like the forst part of your statement

Not sure your theory at the end will hold up to even minor scrutiny.

Just for fun take a drive one day through the trailer park, count the trump/culp signs that are still up....then count the pregnant welfare queens with 5 little fat deadbeat gunnabee kids and deadbeat dads dangling about that put those signs up, those are your base republicans these days.

..or so it seems.
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#1054267 - 07/22/21 12:02 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: DCC]
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Originally Posted By: DCC
Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: DBS
Originally Posted By: Illahee
The plan I read was for two years junior college or trade school free.


That's about as far as I'd go. And it should be based on need. If your parents have lots of money, you don't qualify. Otherwise it would cost too much for tax payers.

There is a responsibility for parents who decide to have kids, that they should prepare themselves to support those kids' education...or just don't have them. And if the ultrasound shows you going to have a lazy deadbeat fat fvck, terminate the pregnancy.


Or is it full circle back to how a child turns out is a direct result of how they're raised?

Wouldn't that be something, run the ultrasound and the deadbeat meter pegs, so terminate... Pretty much every democrat wouldn't have kids in the future... rofl

Keith


I like the forst part of your statement

Not sure your theory at the end will hold up to even minor scrutiny.

Just for fun take a drive one day through the trailer park, count the trump/culp signs that are still up....then count the pregnant welfare queens with 5 little fat deadbeat gunnabee kids and deadbeat dads dangling about that put those signs up, those are your base republicans these days.

..or so it seems.


Merica......

Keith
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#1054268 - 07/22/21 12:03 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
Says the fishing rod biologist.





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#1054269 - 07/22/21 12:17 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
Isn't that how you were conceived?



Regardless was you have been told.....That's not possible.

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#1054270 - 07/22/21 12:19 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Pretend it's just public school, only K-14 instead of K-12, with the last two years specifically earmarked for career/job training, unlike the first 13.

Fish on...

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#1054271 - 07/22/21 12:30 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Pretend it's just public school, only K-14 instead of K-12, with the last two years specifically earmarked for career/job training, unlike the first 13.

Fish on...

Todd


Good analogy....

But if someone doesn't pass, do they get to try again and again like the K-12?

Keith
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#1054272 - 07/22/21 12:34 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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They can take 132 years to pass, for all I care...but they're paying for the additional 130 years out of pocket, past the two that are covered.

Fish on...

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#1054273 - 07/22/21 12:39 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: stlhdr1]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Todd
Pretend it's just public school, only K-14 instead of K-12, with the last two years specifically earmarked for career/job training, unlike the first 13.

Fish on...

Todd


Good analogy....

But if someone doesn't pass, do they get to try again and again like the K-12?

Keith


Somehow I feel you have great perception of this.

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#1054274 - 07/22/21 12:58 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: stlhdr1]
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Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Todd
Pretend it's just public school, only K-14 instead of K-12, with the last two years specifically earmarked for career/job training, unlike the first 13.

Fish on...

Todd


Good analogy....

But if someone doesn't pass, do they get to try again and again like the K-12?

Keith


If they don't pass, they just get to call themselves..


....trump supporters. thumbs
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#1054275 - 07/22/21 01:09 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Todd
Pretend it's just public school, only K-14 instead of K-12, with the last two years specifically earmarked for career/job training, unlike the first 13.

Fish on...

Todd


Good analogy....

But if someone doesn't pass, do they get to try again and again like the K-12?

Keith


Somehow I feel you have great perception of this.


Shillster,


You should go back to school. You have a lot of learning to do. For an old fart, I’d expect you to have some nuggets of wisdom at least, but it doesn’t appear you have much. You should at a minimum take a philosophy course. Could help you with your lack of perspective.


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#1054277 - 07/22/21 01:15 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Welcher lowlife losers are ruining this country.

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#1054278 - 07/22/21 01:29 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
Originally Posted By: stlhdr1
Originally Posted By: Todd
Pretend it's just public school, only K-14 instead of K-12, with the last two years specifically earmarked for career/job training, unlike the first 13.

Fish on...

Todd


Good analogy....

But if someone doesn't pass, do they get to try again and again like the K-12?

Keith


Somehow I feel you have great perception of this.


Nope, did 2 years and done. Cut into my fishing time.

Keith
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#1054279 - 07/22/21 01:37 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: Illahee]
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Originally Posted By: Illahee
Welcher lowlife losers are ruining this country.


I agree completely!!! rofl


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#1054521 - 07/27/21 11:40 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Privileged white men like streamer and illahee deserve no say in the matter, especially streamer because he is a conservative! Illahee may require special accommodations but he has slightly better insight into the struggles of our communities of color because he is a liberal like us. But he must repent for his privilege!!!
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#1064704 - 11/09/24 07:24 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Registered: 07/13/21
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
How does campaign financing reform relate to college tuition?

Every multimillionaire pays taxes. Do they have income, then they pay income taxes. Do they live in a house, then they pay property taxes. Do they live in a hotel, then they pay lodging taxes. Do they live in a tent in a middle of a public park, then they payed sales taxes. Do they ever drive or ride in a car, boat or airplane, then they pay fuel taxes. Do they have a ID card, then they paid that fee which is essentially a tax. Do they wear clothes, then they pay sales taxes. Do they eat at restaurants, then they pay sales taxes. Do they use any kind of service, then they pay sales taxes. Do they drink alcohol, then they pay liquor taxes. Do they own stock, then they pay B&O taxes. Do they mail letters, then they buy stamps which are essentially a tax. Do they serve on juries, then you pay taxes on the money that they pay you to sit on a jury. Do they have health insurance or any other insurance, there is a tax on insurance and the insurance companies themselves pay B&O and income tax. Do they have a phone, there is a tax on that. Do they use electricity, there is a tax on that too.

So in order for your claim to be true. Someone would have to be a multimillionare who has no income, is homeless without even a tent or clothes to shelter them that has no ID uses no services whatsover owns nothing is uninsured has no power no phone doesn't travel except on foot doesn't use the mail or own any stock in any company somehow avoids jury duty and buys absolutely nothing except food from the grocery store that they travel to on foot while naked. Even then taxes are still paid by the grocery store in the form of B&O tax, income tax and property tax for the store plus the income & payroll tax for the employees not to mention all the taxes the other businesses that wholesale and transport the food pay. So whoops he can't even eat now either better go forage food but make sure you don't hunt any game or fish because the license on that is a tax. So eat bugs while naked I guess. You would have to refuse all government welfare, medical care and social security because taxes would be paid by the government employees that administer these programs. You'd have to store whatever form your wealth is in on your person while naked because if it's sitting in a safety deposit box, bank account or investment portfolio then there are definitely taxes being paid then. Plus the form of your wealth you are carrying around would have to be something created tax free, the only thing I can think of that's possible here is gold dust you gathered without any tools but how would you store multimillions worth of gold dust without even being able to buy a sack to put it in so maybe you found one big nugget worth multimillions and you store it in your hand with no security or weapons of defense when you are sleeping unsheltered and you could never sell or barter the nugget because taxes would have to be paid so you can't use your wealth other than holding it in your hand which you would have to do 24/7 365 days a year. You would also have to avoid dying somehow and figure out how to live forever without any medicines technology or tools other than what you can scrounge up from public forests because of estate taxes. If someone is a multimillionaire and actually lives like this I would be legitimately impressed to the point I wouldn't expect them to pay for anything because they don't use literally anything ever. Even Ted Kaczynski's lifestyle is more extravagant than that. I would say being a sasquatch is a possible lifestyle here but no you have people like Rich G spending resources that he is getting taxed on searching for you so you can't even be a sasquatch that may or may not even exist either because Rich G fvcked that up for you. You would somehow have to stop social workers from searching for you for those homeless census they do because yes social workers are paying taxes. So in addition to drinking from mud puddles eating bugs while naked holding a gold rock forever without dying nobody could know or even suspect that you exist. Also since you said multimillionaires there would have to be at least two people doing this. Then they would also have to kill me with their gold rocks because now that I have thought of the concept of these non tax paying multimillionaires that may or may not even exist I'm going to start looking for them which involves paying taxes, so even if they don't exist they are causing taxes to be paid. Also by killing me taxes would have to be paid because even if I disappeared some type of search would be done by someone which expends resources that causes taxes to be paid. So the fact that I exist and have thought up the concept of the non tax paying multimillionaires living naked in the woods somewhere that I will start looking for falsifies your claim because your naked gold rock multimillionaires can't kill me because killing me requires paying taxes. If they kill me they are paying taxes, if they don't kill me my search for them causes paying taxes. Either way some taxes will be paid thus multimillionaires that pay no taxes cannot exist.

Since these hypothetical people would have to use absolutely nothing society offers what is their fair share they should chip in to live that extravagant lifestyle of theirs that you are so envious of. But this never happens like most things you post that never happen because every multimillionaire does at least some of the above things and the taxes get paid when they do. Every multimillionaire pays taxes, every single one.


This may be the greatest post of all time. I still do spend some of my time looking for one of these naked bug eating puddle drinking gold rock holding multimillionaires living out in the woods not paying any taxes. They are even more elusive than bigfoot.

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#1064706 - 11/09/24 10:24 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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I just read through this thread again as well. Lots of dumbfukkkery here. Especially from the shillster/illahee.



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#1064714 - 11/10/24 08:58 AM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
How does campaign financing reform relate to college tuition?

Every multimillionaire pays taxes. Do they have income, then they pay income taxes. Do they live in a house, then they pay property taxes. Do they live in a hotel, then they pay lodging taxes. Do they live in a tent in a middle of a public park, then they payed sales taxes. Do they ever drive or ride in a car, boat or airplane, then they pay fuel taxes. Do they have a ID card, then they paid that fee which is essentially a tax. Do they wear clothes, then they pay sales taxes. Do they eat at restaurants, then they pay sales taxes. Do they use any kind of service, then they pay sales taxes. Do they drink alcohol, then they pay liquor taxes. Do they own stock, then they pay B&O taxes. Do they mail letters, then they buy stamps which are essentially a tax. Do they serve on juries, then you pay taxes on the money that they pay you to sit on a jury. Do they have health insurance or any other insurance, there is a tax on insurance and the insurance companies themselves pay B&O and income tax. Do they have a phone, there is a tax on that. Do they use electricity, there is a tax on that too.

So in order for your claim to be true. Someone would have to be a multimillionare who has no income, is homeless without even a tent or clothes to shelter them that has no ID uses no services whatsover owns nothing is uninsured has no power no phone doesn't travel except on foot doesn't use the mail or own any stock in any company somehow avoids jury duty and buys absolutely nothing except food from the grocery store that they travel to on foot while naked. Even then taxes are still paid by the grocery store in the form of B&O tax, income tax and property tax for the store plus the income & payroll tax for the employees not to mention all the taxes the other businesses that wholesale and transport the food pay. So whoops he can't even eat now either better go forage food but make sure you don't hunt any game or fish because the license on that is a tax. So eat bugs while naked I guess. You would have to refuse all government welfare, medical care and social security because taxes would be paid by the government employees that administer these programs. You'd have to store whatever form your wealth is in on your person while naked because if it's sitting in a safety deposit box, bank account or investment portfolio then there are definitely taxes being paid then. Plus the form of your wealth you are carrying around would have to be something created tax free, the only thing I can think of that's possible here is gold dust you gathered without any tools but how would you store multimillions worth of gold dust without even being able to buy a sack to put it in so maybe you found one big nugget worth multimillions and you store it in your hand with no security or weapons of defense when you are sleeping unsheltered and you could never sell or barter the nugget because taxes would have to be paid so you can't use your wealth other than holding it in your hand which you would have to do 24/7 365 days a year. You would also have to avoid dying somehow and figure out how to live forever without any medicines technology or tools other than what you can scrounge up from public forests because of estate taxes. If someone is a multimillionaire and actually lives like this I would be legitimately impressed to the point I wouldn't expect them to pay for anything because they don't use literally anything ever. Even Ted Kaczynski's lifestyle is more extravagant than that. I would say being a sasquatch is a possible lifestyle here but no you have people like Rich G spending resources that he is getting taxed on searching for you so you can't even be a sasquatch that may or may not even exist either because Rich G fvcked that up for you. You would somehow have to stop social workers from searching for you for those homeless census they do because yes social workers are paying taxes. So in addition to drinking from mud puddles eating bugs while naked holding a gold rock forever without dying nobody could know or even suspect that you exist. Also since you said multimillionaires there would have to be at least two people doing this. Then they would also have to kill me with their gold rocks because now that I have thought of the concept of these non tax paying multimillionaires that may or may not even exist I'm going to start looking for them which involves paying taxes, so even if they don't exist they are causing taxes to be paid. Also by killing me taxes would have to be paid because even if I disappeared some type of search would be done by someone which expends resources that causes taxes to be paid. So the fact that I exist and have thought up the concept of the non tax paying multimillionaires living naked in the woods somewhere that I will start looking for falsifies your claim because your naked gold rock multimillionaires can't kill me because killing me requires paying taxes. If they kill me they are paying taxes, if they don't kill me my search for them causes paying taxes. Either way some taxes will be paid thus multimillionaires that pay no taxes cannot exist.

Since these hypothetical people would have to use absolutely nothing society offers what is their fair share they should chip in to live that extravagant lifestyle of theirs that you are so envious of. But this never happens like most things you post that never happen because every multimillionaire does at least some of the above things and the taxes get paid when they do. Every multimillionaire pays taxes, every single one.


This may be the greatest post of all time. I still do spend some of my time looking for one of these naked bug eating puddle drinking gold rock holding multimillionaires living out in the woods not paying any taxes. They are even more elusive than bigfoot.


Don't be so quick to flatter yourself. It's not quite that entertaining, now having read it for likely a second time.

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#1064718 - 11/10/24 05:57 PM Re: College Loan Forgiveness [Re: FishPrince]
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However, still notable enough to compel you to comment about it.



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