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#166074 - 11/19/02 10:32 PM The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
Neurosis Offline
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Registered: 11/14/02
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Loc: Auburn
I recently bought a Lumis G3 1082C rod. I can literaly tell how big the rock is that the lead bounces off of. Well, today I went and bought a Lamiglas Cert. Pro X96JCT. It doesnt feel near as sensitive as the loomis. Ive heard great things about these rods. Maybe im jumping to conclusions too soon after only drifting it for one day, but the first time I drifted the Loomis I knew there was a difference. Does the strength and size of the rod "no pun intended" increase or decrease the sensitivity?
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#166075 - 11/19/02 10:52 PM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
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Depends upon the rod. Like any rod, conventional or fly, if you don't use it within it's intended limits, it's not going to work as designed.

You put a huge slinky or 5 inch hunk of lead on a light rod (say a 1024) and you're going to lose the crisp tap as the lead moves along ... a rod such as the 1021 is going to be much better suited to fishing under these conditions and providing the angler with the best results ... wonder why some of us have so many rods??

No different than putting a T-400 on a eight foot six weight and then wondering why you can't cast it.

Many comparisons are like comparing apples and oranges ... it can't be done and there aren't really any absolutes.

I'm not familiar with the Lamiglas model you're referring to, so I can' thelp much in making a side by side in specs and what you should expect, sorry ... maybe some lami diehards can help there!
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#166076 - 11/19/02 10:55 PM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
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Registered: 11/10/01
Posts: 96
Loc: Poulsbo, WA
I might be way off base but I think that there are trade offs. I fish loomis as well as lami's. An 6-10 lbs lami is a bit more sensitive than my 15-30 custom loomis. I would think that to make an accurate assessment you would need to have identical rods from different manufactures. Same weight line rating, same length, and same action. Then you could find out which rod is more sensitive. But you would only have the answer for that set of rods. Both Loomis or Lami make great rods, Loomis might have the edge on sensitivity but that comes down to personal opinion. Sorry I couldn't answer your question with a more straight forward answer.

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#166077 - 11/19/02 11:04 PM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
Neurosis Offline
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beathead I think I may have taken this thread to a wrong direction. I dont mean to compare a Lami to a Lumis or any other rod. I guess what im wondering, is #1: is the Cert pro really that great of a rod?? #2: If your using a Loomis 6-10lb rod and jump to even a Lumis 8-12lb, are you going to get the same sensitivity out of them both?? I'm new to fishing and dont really know what I should expect out of these rods. Just looking for some input from people with a few years more experience than what I have.
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#166078 - 11/19/02 11:59 PM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
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Registered: 10/08/01
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Neurosis,

I'm not familiar with the models in question, but most Lamiglas rods I have seen are a bit heavier, in ounces, than comparable Loomis models. Other things being equal, a lighter rod of equal stiifness and length would be more sensitive.

I have had, and still have, several Lamiglas rods. I think they are decent, sturdy rods, with sometimes variable production quality. I have an old plug rod of theirs that has the reel seat installed at a 20 degree angle to the guides.

Sensitivity is not the first adjective that would come to my lips if asked to describe them. I am not sure if it would even come in third, if you get my drift. But I have never broken one, despite putting them through some serious use and abuse.

Sounds to me like you like the Loomis better. Even if you are new to the sport, you can tell what you like. Stick with it! It doesn't matter what anyone else likes or thinks. If the gear works for you, it works.

Good luck when the water comes down.
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#166079 - 11/20/02 12:05 AM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
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Registered: 03/06/99
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Loc: Western Washington
Just buy a Loomis IMX and will never have to worry about rod sensitivity again! shoot
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#166080 - 11/20/02 12:06 AM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
MJ Offline
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Registered: 11/10/01
Posts: 96
Loc: Poulsbo, WA
I like the Cert Pro. I use a 10' Herzog 8-12. I float fish with it and throw spoons. I think they are great rods. between the two you mentioned i would give teh nod to the Loomis for sensitivity. I am not sure that I would be able to tell much difference, mostly it would be in my head. I paid more for the Loomis so it should be more sensitive, sort of thing. Either will do the job for you. It really is a subjective question. If one feels better, than it is better, despite what ever other think. I think the Value is better on a Lami. Great rods, God price. VS, great rods, high price. Heck, I own more loomis rods than Lami's. But Lami's will be what I buy unless loomis comes out with another float rod I can't live without, longer than 12'. I guess the only answer really is which rod are you more confident in?

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#166081 - 11/20/02 12:32 AM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
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Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 164
Loc: S.W. Washinton
neurosis, i think the answer youre looking for is this, take any rod, the longer bigger it is the more guides,thread, clear coat, cork, glue and bigger real seat its going to take, all these things hamper a rods sensativity, there is a balance of all these things to get the feel and few make drift rods,, my favorite drift rod is a old LCI stryker, its junk to other people but it fits me and i could fish any rod i wanted to.. confused
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#166082 - 11/20/02 06:55 PM Re: The thinner the rod the more sensitive?
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 640
Loc: The Tailout
I'm not an authority, but I think I know what you're getting at. I believe a rod with more give in the tip will transmit less vibrations to the handle, all other things the same. Thus, I don't think you'll feel as much with a 6-10 as a 8-12 on the same model/length. The flex of the tip dampens the vibraions. The most sensative rod I've used was a 5.5 foot heavy/fast action bass rod. Shorter and lighter rods are also more sensative in my experience.
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