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#176845 - 07/17/06 04:57 PM Dollard video, Iraq war
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I wasn't going to post this, but after reading the Veitnam post I thought it gave some interesting views on what some of the soldiers think about some of the people back here in the states. Caution, graphic pics and strong lanuage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W9D8BPTmjc
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#176846 - 07/17/06 05:56 PM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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That Dollard guys says from the get go that he's out to get it from a Pro-Bush slant. That makes him just as biased as any douche from FOX or CNN or what have you.
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#176847 - 07/17/06 05:59 PM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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Looks like a cut and paste to me, Mr. Massengill.

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#176848 - 07/17/06 06:57 PM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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Opinions are just like assholes - everybody has one.

Note that several Iraq vets are running for congerss a Democrats. just another opinion.
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#176850 - 07/17/06 09:19 PM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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#176852 - 07/18/06 03:00 AM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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The Iraq Vets I know, from both I & II, when they aren't battling PTSD, are showing me pictures of thier experiences and telling me what a F---ed up waste of human life it is.

"I mean -- how would we like it if they came over here and did what we did?"
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#176853 - 07/18/06 10:09 AM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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I have an idea......let's let only the soldier's vote. Any bet's which way it would go?

And just who is it that thinks politicians are much of an indicator of anything? Most simply reflect the squeakiest wheels.

And Dave... "Opinions are just like assholes - everybody has one." You left off the, " and most stink." I couldn't agree more.
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#176854 - 07/18/06 12:36 PM Re: Dollard video, Iraq war
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I've been doing some research on Pat Dollard. Trying to get some people's opinons that are over there and see what they think of him. Here is one soliders. I'll get another one's opinon when he gets home tommorow night, maybe I can get him to post it.

And Dave... "Opinions are just like assholes - everybody has one." You left off the, " and most stink." I couldn't agree more.

Slab you forgot to add "Unless they agree with us" didn't you?


I met Pat during my second tour in Iraq. I was immediately stunned because here is a "filmmaker" from Hollywood, and he barely knows how to use his camera. (I went to film school and found it odd that he didn't know too much). Being not only a Marine, but a Marine Officer, I had an innate distrust for media personnel. Not because we were conditioned to distrust the media, but because my Marines and unit were personally betrayed by the media; several times over. We would sit and watch a war on television that was advertised as our war, but was much different in reality. We watched as our bloodshed was wildly exploited as political cannon fodder. After hearing Pat's story and having him live with me, keeping constant supervision of this possible media-serpent, I realized that he was something of an odd creature. What kind of person gives up his comfortable life to go to combat, and why? Why did this agent (not filmmaker) spend a ton of money on equipment and airfare just to come to Iraq? Why not someplace nice, like Thailand? Why is he intent on "telling the truth" when no one else would? What makes him any different? We have had many "truth tellers" come across our path, with promises of accurate reporting and honesty, only to be stabbed in the back by editorial perversions, liberal bias, and self serving reporters looking for the next big story. All the while operating under the careful care and security of the men they will soon betray.
CPT. Iglesias At Ramadi Park while
IED Explodes In Background

Like most Marines who volunteer for service, looking to become a part of something larger than themselves; to live a life of sacrifice, fueled by purpose and truth, Pat Dollard himself answered a higher calling. He sacrificed all of his material possessions, and put his life on the line in order to tell the story that no one else wanted to tell. To think, this man could have, and almost did, die just so he could bring a reality to the American people that would otherwise be unknown. We live in a sheltered world, in this media bubble where our "truth" is based merely on what we receive from today's media. And since we do not control what the media tells us, we do not control the truth; we are victims of it.

So who is Pat Dollard? His is a normal human being like most of us, with good parts and bad. Like every man, he is flawed. But unlike most men, he has a devotion to a set of ideals that he is willing to die for. He is a man who took an introspective look at himself, and the word around him. He didn't like what he saw and he mustered the courage to change it. At 42 years old, he is no different than that 18 year old kid, heart pure and full of good intentions, who raises his right hand and pledges his life for the good of our nation. He is a man who ventured off into uncertainty and fear, and captured a world that most men would say was best forgotten. For Pat and the Marines, this world of combat will be with them forever; and with his daring efforts, this world can now be rightfully shared with the rest of the world. Simply put Pat Dollard is a patriot. A patriot who entered the fray in search of something greater, and returned with the truth that is reality, however painful, and delivered it to the American people.

Take the time to discover for yourself exactly "who is pat Dollard". You will undoubtedly find a sincere and honest filmmaker interviewing both Americans and Iraqis alike. You will see our Iraqi counterparts in a new light. View those men, who some of us call brother, husband, father, or son as they unconditionally express themselves to the camera. The candid and revealing footage, along with the many visceral images throughout this film, pay a tribute to Pat's natural ability as a filmmaker. The technical and creative merit of this film rivals that of seasoned documentary filmmakers.

Bottom line: Prepare to have your opinion of this war changed forever.

Semper Fidelis,

Capt Ig
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