I was just reading on the net about the newest tape by Bin laden and that Bush has advised Americans to have tape and plastic available for a safe room in case of germ or radiation. Hmmm? Germs......Will I have my tent up in time before I'm dead? Radiation....I'm not sure how well visqueen will hold up against a nuclear blast?
Oh crap, I forgot that you can buy reinforced poly!
What the hell was I thinking? Some reinforced visqueen, and the handy mans' secret weapon.....duct tape and I'm good to go.
I heard that when it's all over, the only ones left will be cockroaches and Kieth Richards.


Seriously though, are any of you concerned about the what's going on in this world?

Downriggin, I hope you're reding this.
Turn that place into an ash tray for will ya?

I think we are safe.

Could just be the media trying to make things sound really bad. How many times have we heard "attacks are coming"?

Besides, if something does happen there will be an automatic green light to turn Iraq in to a glass parking lot.

Ya know,there are BB's that cater to non fish related political discussions. How bout this one?http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/forum/boards/viewboard.asp?boardID=9

Dont be so ainal Keta. This is an important topic and belongs every where and any where.

Your very correct Rich. Well done.
Fishermen are people too! -And AMERICAN!!

Good Patriot, Darin

I am reading....

Although there is cause for some concern, I am going to keep on living normal and so should rest of the world. The media is spinning this one up... and that is exactly what Osama and his band of bandits want- to disrupt our life style, make us scared. They win everytime the media gets ahold of information...

What scares me is the thought of suicide bombers!

Unfortunately, what I think needs to happen is the total closure of all our borders and then start weeding folks out... It is time for a change and this is the only way we'll slowly put a near halt on it. However, we will still have our Timothy Mcvay's...

As far as Saddam, it is only a matter of time. I think we'll finish business this time. However, I also feel, it is only going to be the tip of the ice berg.

Downriggin'

The thing that bugs me is the sensationalism this type of media renders inside people could potentially motivate someone to attack us.
In some cases the media almost exposes our vulnerablilities as a nation to the point where they're saying "Attack us here and do it this way."

I think we would all be better off if the media could report on news without blowing all of these stories into worse-case scenarios. It gives freaks that do live in America bad ideas.

I think we are safe too. I like our way of life and would protect it at all costs.
I will continue to think that way until the day something really bad happens inside our borders. I try to remain prepared for that day, and will try to keep my mind in other places until then. I shudder at the thought of the impacts of some form of biological/chemical/dirty nuke bomb attack on our soil.

Abroad, Anti-American sentiment is growing stronger every day due to the strong-arm approach Bush is taking with Saddam. When you watch the BBC or read news from other countries it's really evident that we aren't making anyone happy internationally except Britain. I hope that this war against Saddam and Iraq doesnt create a bigger problem for us down the road.

It seems like Bush is internationally reshaping our image as arrogant Americans who dont give a damn about UN policy and due process. I dont think he speaks for the majority.

I am not saying that Bush isn't doing the right thing, but that his and his cabinet's methods and approach stink sometimes. He wont get my vote next time around.

..Cheers to that

Rich,IMHO Bob and the moderators are quite lenient with the off topic posts here and it seems to me a matter of respect to try to keep the non fishing topics to a minimum. I think these Bush Iraq red alert scarem nukem threads have been beaten to death here lately and there are hundreds of more appropreate sites to air these issues on. But that's just my opinion and it's not my board so knock youself out.

Folks its time to stand up and defend what freedoms we do have. The bin ladens ,sadaams ,and all of their supporters that danced in the streets when our innocent people were slaughtered that terrible day,need to be eliminated!!! Close our borders! If the rest of the world hates us so much then why do they risk death trying to float here??? What nation is the first nation to the scene of a disaster. ?? How many millions have we contributed to food aid, and rescue efforts in this world???
Am I scared?? Maybe a little, but at least we have a president that is willing to fight for the safty of our nation. With him in a place of leadership I believe that we are as safe as we can be... May our flag fly high!!! Always remember the most deadly attack on our homeland, and remember those that were taken from us. May they all be at peace.

While I think that all that is happening is very serious, when I watch the news broadcasts, I put it all in perspective by remembering the song by Don Henley-"Dirty Laundry"(I make my livin' on the evening news- just give me somethin', somthin' I can use....)
The media is a joke! Proud to be American!- nook

I got this several years ago, and it still rings true today (except the Jet Airplane statement)


The attached is an editorial from Canada. It is not a Veterans Day Message, but it is a recognition of the part America plays around the world, and a THANKS from our closest neighbor.
This is an editorial from Canada about the United States.

America: The Good Neighbor
Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a
Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the
full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the congressional
Record:

This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the
earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of
dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries in to help.
This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped.
The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the
erosion of the United States Dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the
moon?
You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them.
When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke.
I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to help the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those...Think about it!!

I heard a guy say something this morning on the radio that made a lot of sense.

I am paraphrasing: Every ten years or so the US needs to flex its muscle a little to keep all the other countries in the world in check. If we don't then we will have more 9/11's.

Oh ya, there is going to be a lot of discussion about NFR topics when the fishing is slow. Except for blackmouth that is.

Yep, it's just the media spinning up a web of BS to sell newspapers and newscasts. Osama doesn't exist and Al Qaida was made up by the CIA to fuel the military/industrial machine. Oh yeah, those Twin Towers, they were just a figment of your imagination and those people who died and got sick from supposed anthrax just had the flu. The guy they found at P.A. with enough dynamite in his trunk to level LAX? He was just a silly tourist!
There's safety in numbers, but don't fool yourselves. Americans are targets.
Sky-Guy, it's called a free press and its guaranteed by the constitution. Iraq doesn't have one.

Our world has changed as we know it. I think we can all agree that terrorist's have won a major battle here by having all of us even discuss this topic. Now is the time to remove a few dictator's while we have the opportunity, close our borders to illegal immigrants, and erradicate the terrorist cells here today. If we don't act quickly, we will be witnessing the end of our superpower.

Keta
You have the choice to read or not to read. If you don't like it don't read it. Don't try tell the rest of us what we should or shouldn't discuss.

i wanna know who are the jackass's that the terrorists cells that are currently operating in the u.s., i mean, shoo do a house to house search, rid the country of these folks, i dont care if its extreme or its against our freedom in this country, is not my freedom being inhibited when i have to think of what happened in new york, and the current status of our nation on high alert? that is a infringment upon my freedom.. so easy do you have a open spot someday to go for black mouth, or are you booked lol?

ooops, i meant to say let in them terrorist cells...

J-DAM SA-DAM!!!!!

I stay up rather late. I just mentioned to my husband this past week.....have you noticed the increased fighter jet sounds in the sky after 12:30 at night. (metro Portland)
JUST heard on a report this morning that N.
Korea has missiles capable of hitting the WEST COAST.....
And I like the format that Bob has going.
If I don't want to read the thread, I just skip it
rather than going to different category forums.

It's very disturbing to know that North Korea, Iraq and Al Qaeda have the ability to levy attacks on US soil.
Even more disturbing is the way mainstream media spoon-feeds sensationalism and how some of the audience eats it up.
You could seal your home and hoard canned goods and water or you could live your life normally.
I choose the latter and feel good knowing that in spite of the terrorist' efforts, I am denying them victory.
Thanks to Sky-Guy and Downriggin for thoughtful posts.
I am more concerned with local government and law enforcement community than a biological attack from terrorists.....they have legal backing to impinge on our freedom.
Don't believe everything(or much of what) you see on TV.
They will sell you anything they can to make a buck.