To me there is a difference between intentionally flossing a fish and accidentally flossing one. Flossing a fish with eggs and a three foot leader doesn't make you a non sportsmen cutthroat. If you want to follow the laws that have been set throw the fish back. This isn't rocket science. You know what is going on. I

If you don't enjoy the challenge and you are only after meat on the table go to safeway. Heck the indians will sell you some salmon for a decent price go check them out.

cowfish,

Are you trying to tell me you don't understand the regulation?

Is there something unclear.........maybe a word you're not familiar with?

Look, just because the state trooper doesn't pull you over when you go by him at 63, that DOESN'T mean you aren't breaking the law. You are.

Cowlitzfisherman, I didn't misunderstand, I meant that you worked in conjunction with rules and such. I misworded it.

I also have fished the majority of the river. I meant the "snaggers" fish the upper end. I know the river from headwaters to mouth. I used to fish the mouth alot, you had a good channel for incoming fish, and also the channel narrows out for fish running upper chehalis river. And, all the years we fished or ran our sled near mouth of Sop, never saw the long leaders you're talking about either. Most were smaller leaders, most guys were using bait or tossing plugs. Never once saw the flossing you're speaking of. I was down visiting my Dad yesterday, so asked him about this, just to make sure I hadn't missed anything since he's fished the rivers there alot longer then I have. He's never heard of the fishing you've described either. Most of the guys he knows either used floats in that deep hole in mouth of Sop, or used the standard leaders and swept through. Never seen a leader of 10' feet.

Yes, parts of the Sop are that way, but usually only like 2 holes on the upper end. Most you could easily fish a 10' leader. Plus, if they were doing a proper upriver and drift through, wouldn't take much of a river to get a proper drift in, even smaler then the leader length. I was using the upper river because it's where you'll see the majority of the snaggers. You see them throughout the river of course, but biggest horde is the way upper river near Schaefer Park. I'm sure there are guys who use these leaders, but not near as prevelant as at BC. Like I said, I've only fished BC a few times, and every time I've fished it I've seen majority of guys use this method. We opted from then to use sled and fish below that area. Why deal with that mess? So, hope that clears things up for you. We sled the chehalis mostly, and depends on time of year and what we plan to target, depends where we launch and were we fish. Have ran sled up near that hole many a times. Lots of fish travel up that way to enter Sop. So have seen those guys fishing quite a bit when we weren't trolling lower river. Never seen long leaders. Maybe 4-5' max, and that's only a few doing that.

Steelheader69

Thanks for your courteous and informative reply. I know we may differ on what we have each seen, but I can tell you; it is what I had seen the few times that I have fished that area. The good about this is we can voice our differences without getting all excited at each other!

I like the way that you have handled your writings and your replies for whatever that is worth!

Cowlitzfisherman

Dan,
Maybe, just maybe I understand more then you on that issue. What is it that you don't understand about " both of these officers " not writing tickets?

My last post addressed a lot more issues other then just the State Trooper thing! So why not comment on the "rest of the story"?

Besides, I have yet to hear that a single board member has ever been cited for flossing/lining.....have you?

Cowlitzfisherman

Attention Buzzboat!! What guides do you see with that long of a leader. My buddy is a bait boy for a guide and I know a few and they dont use leaders longer than 5ft at the longest. I have fished blue creek severel times and caught plenty of fish with a 3ft leader. They say the blue creek anglers are a different breed. Are you one of them, you think you own the river dont you. The locals that go to blue creek arent good sportsman.

cowfish,

Know anyone who's been ticketed for 62 in a 60? Were they breaking the law anyway?

No prob Cowlitzfisherman. Probably the day the BC guys showed up. The followed you down.

But, I've rarely ever seen that. At mouth of Sop, never. I used to fish it religiously. Great hole to anchor near, especially when sled alley near the pumphouses are full. Plus, you can anchor out of the way of the bank guys, so don't hurt their drift. No need to slam everyone, just causes an already heated discussion to become an irate rant.

Sorry fellas, I feel as though my last post was a little harsh. We've all got our own opinions and sometimes many of us get a little carried away. Let's drop this thread entirely and go do some fishing........
Cuttie

ok! i stopped at barrier yesterday and i seen the real deal flosser in the act. he would cast out to the big water with 1 1/2 bank sinker and pull-reel, pull-reel, pull-reel all f-ing day. not to mention his 10ft ugly stick to and 14ft leader to boot. oh yea! he did hook more fish than everyone else combined. stupid f-er.

I do not think this answers the question which was

" OK, CFM, let's hear all these rivers where I can go to RIGHT NOW and can CONSISTANTLY see MULTIPLE people using leaders in the 8'10' range and flossing fish??????"

IMHO the words RIGHT NOW, CONSISTANTLY AND MULTIPLE make the difference between the two statements.