Aunty, when was the last time that you held down a full time job?

Here the reality Aunty:

What do all these people do if and when they loose their jobs? If you're a military person, your still going to get something if everyone continues to "pay there taxes". But once people loose these high paying jobs, what do you suppose they will do to make a living? No workers…no taxes coming in to pay governmental jobs either.

In our country, we walk a fragile line. The last time the line was broken was during the great depression. How far from that line are we now? Best thing that a person can do is to own his home and have no bills that he owes to anyone! Can you do that? Can 98% of the members of this board do that? What if they loose whatever retirement benefits they are currently enjoying now, or their job?

Everything always seems to be good, until it's bad! I may not have a lot of new toys or the best and newest car and trucks, but what I do have is all mind! Can most of you claim that and still have a straight face?

I owe no man anything! 0+0 equals 0!!

So who's really the smart one? You, like most, most likely, depend on someone else to pay their taxes so that you will have the perks and benefits and that you now enjoy today. But what will you and all the others do when, or if, that well goes dry?

I guess it’s the old grasshopper and ant story all over again! It's really not if it happens; it's when it happens! That's about all you need to known about me for now! I always make it my policy to look both up and down the river before I take off! Some people only look in the direction that they are heading!

Cowlitzfisherman

Aunty....what can I say to that!

Cowlitzfisherman

heard them on the radio talking to a sailor today that was an E-4 and he was saying that his wife was on WIC and how he didn't make very much.
Until someone that was in the navy called in

Turns out this guy was getting free base housing and $1800 month. He said he was able to put money in savings every month and yet he was still collecting assistance from the state.

duro,
I do not need to thank cfm for [Bleeeeep!].I have been to his pet river once that was enough.

So seven people requested the link?So do any of them want to stand up and say they needed that link for anything more than to nose around in somebodys personal buisness.Gee lets go see how much joe neighbor makes hee hee hee.That is the only purpose that link is doing here on this site.Nice to know you guys get off on such things.I do not.

ltlCLEO
Should be careful what you ask for because sometimes you get what you wish for!

Maybe you should ask your long time friend "Cupo" that same question!

If memory serves me right (and it does) didn't your old buddy "Cupo" ask this; "Is there a similar website that lists the names of people collecting unemployment and welfare?"

I can hear you both right now! …I was only kidding…I was just trying to prove my point…I was just baiting you…I was….. I, I, I ...

I know, I know your never going to read this thread again! Your addicted to doing this because you hate the Cowlitz River

You need to go back into that deep dark canyon that you love so much and talk to those rock walls again. It's starting to sound like you need some more rock therapy agiain

Maybe Cupo wanted to see if someone was double dipping! Getting "funny money", plus making a good paying salary! Happens all the time if you didn't know it!

You need to calm down and go fishing!

Cowlitzfisherman

Wait!!!

Before you can post it, let me read what that little head of yours is thinking of right now!

Your going to write back and say "That's exactly my point cfm!

Now how did I figure that one out????????

I think I heard it from the "rock wall"

Now you can go fishing


Cowlitzfisherman

wind bag,
Just got back from fishing thank you and to my surprise a reply that has nothing to do with what I posted this morning...by the way do not know cupo just liked what he had to say.

Once again..those people that are requesting the link what are you doing with the link..snooping or actually serving a constructive purpose.

And the lil'white haired dog continues to mindlessly yip yap away.

Well once again I told you to be careful about what you ask for!

You just said for the second time; "Once again..those people that are requesting the link what are you doing with the link..snooping or actually serving a constructive purpose.

Since I am not revealing the members name, nor will I reveal there board name, I believe that she will not mind me revealing the "context" of her email to me. This should answer you ltlCLEO!

(no hope for the gooose)

And I qoute "I wanted to send this privately because I'll probably get jumped big time if I posted it on the board.

For months my ex-husband has been giving me a sob story about cut in pay and voluntary demotions, layoff worries, etc.. due to the cost of the green river murder trial, he works for King County.

Thanks to your post of this, I have found the truth about his income which is that he's actually making a hell of a lot more and got a promotion to boot while I've been struggling with the loss of a job and took a huge pay cut to just get working again, with a refusal for any extra help from him.

Thanks for the info from a very grateful single mom :-)

Now to me, that makes up for all the other whining that I heard that were apposed to this information!!

Well Aunty, something really good did come out of this thread for at least one single mom! How many more Moms will benefit that we will never hear back from is any bodies guest? That must be why so many guys got so excited…you think


One more rat bites the just!!

PS; Crow pie for gooose...crow pie for goose

Cowlitzfisherman

CFM, before the woman who emailed you gets too excited about how much her ex is making, she should know that the salaries given are outdated. The wage by my name on that site is somewhere between 6 and 12 months old.

I brought up unemployment and welfare because you didn't. You think we need to know how much every state employee is making, so why not every welfare and unemployment recipient? How about those getting breaks on college tuition? How about WIC? How about people who are getting medical care on DSHS's dime? How about the older people you claim are getting out of property taxes? My money is subsidizing all of them so I should get all their names and how much they're getting, right?

My main complaint about the website is that it gives my full name. I don't like the idea of friends or family members of inmates being able to look up my first name and middle initial just by knowing my last name and job title. It puts them one step closer to personal info like my address.

Out dated?

I don't think it's out dated! It really depends on when they wrote their PDA request, and when the state agencies gave the site requestor the information that was asked for. Most PDA's are required by law to be answered in fairly short order. You didn't say which branch of state government you work for, so I can't tell when the PDA was requested, or how old your job information is. And that goes for the "mom" that emailed me too. It sounds like her x may have worked for law enforcement, but I am not quite sure about that one.

Either way, like most posts have indicated, the person is likely even making more now then he was a year ago or two ago! I bet you that she will do a PDA now if she is still in doubt. So watch out suckers, the old lady coming to get you all

Thanks cupo for making a civil reply that needs and deserves a civil response.


Cowlitzfisherman

Aunty, no reason to be sorry to me…be sorry for the poor ladies who have gotten screwed!

You just told me; "Any woman who suspects an ex isn't paying what he has been court ordered to and is making excuses why he can't pay…" That is assuming an awful lot on your part Aunty

It happens all the time, to lots of people who still believe that they may get back together again, rather you believe it or not! And yes, maybe someone did tell me wrong, but I don't believe that this woman did. Like I said, been their, and done that once before…HAVE YOU BEEN THERE or done it YET?

Have you ever had your heart broken by a spouse who has decided to leave you…even though you were not ready to let them go…. Obviously you have not!!


Cowlitzfisherman

I've been out of the loop for a couple of days... looks like I missed a ton! Sorry, every now and then I need to go fishing or hunting...

cfm - did you ever think this would hit over 200 posts? holy cow. We will never agree, but this has been impressive! I wonder what the record is?

Tm- sorry if I offended you. I know a lot of people in the logging profession, I respect what you do. your post pi$$ed me off, so I relatiated.... I'm a math teacher, I'm not perfect.

Aunty - read the above comment. But I took a lot before I lost my composure lashed back... sorry to disappoint.

Jerry G - It must have taken some restraint on this one!!! Sorry if I pushed the envelope!

anyone else - I got sucked in again!!! I promised myself I'd never get involved in a NFR again. I did pretty good since the war stuff, but this one got my hackles up. I'm back on the wagon... you all can keep your nfr's. I'm sticking to the fishing stuff.

Incidentally- I filled my deer tag (archery) today, and am going fishing tomorrow... maybe I'll post tomorrow, but it will be a generic, plain jane, politically correct, fishing report. nothing more.

The 1st part of that sounds very "Femministic" to me, which is just as bad as "Chauvenistic" Aunty...... And let me guess here, I bet you fart with the best of them too??

MC

As usual Cleo you are so FOS! We have known forever what Senators, Congressmen, Judges, and the President make.... Why is it any different for any other public servant?
For heavens sake........

MC

I do have to agree with his point here..... I think we have a right to know the pay for the position, but the personal info should not be included........
As far as taxpayers knowing about welfare payments etc. AuntyM.... They are not "Public Servants"....They do not WORK for the taxpayers, they only COST the taxpayers.... Big difference. Besides, at least with the public employees I know I am getting something for my buck.... The others cost and we get nothing for the money we spend on them.....

MC

Cfm,
Come on you can do better that!As the world turn???If it is true then this lady needs more than this website,like a life.That is the justification guys????

It is being used simply to nose around in peoples personal lives and that is it.sad.

I am done with this thread as my point is made and your crazy need to have the last word has wasted enough space on the internet already.Yap..Yap

tlCLEO

Remember what we told you about talking to those "rock walls"!! Apparently they are talking back to you now…right?

By the tone of your last post, it sounds like your depending heavily on what they are telling you…you think!

Yep! With a closing line like that one, the rocks have SPOKEN to you for sure!



Cowlitzfisherman

I'm the one that wrote that to CFM and if you would read what I wrote I said that my ex has refused any "extra" help due to the fact of my loss in pay and 6 months of being unemployed.

I used to make the same as him when we got divorced. While I was at work doing late night end of month inventory, my son was a victim of a crime. My ex chose to ignore that it ever happened, chose to not go to the counseling or the police interviews or to court. I chose to take a pay cut and get a Monday thru Friday 8-5 job for my son, so that he could get better and have someone there for him.

Go Figure, I used to work Fast Food and made $35k/year. Now working an office job, I make about half that. With the same support that I was getting at $35k/year I have made it, because I had to and because DCS would not review my case because I had an administrative order that I would have to go back to King County Court to change (notice that I live in Snohomish County, down to downtown Seattle is an awful drive). What a joke. So, then in the middle of all that I lose my job. Still no help from my ex. When I ask him to please just sit down and play nice and figure it out ourselves, no way. When I ask for even a little bit of help it's a big old sob story about how King County Parks is getting cut back and such and how they are facing layoffs, etc. He makes almost $5k more a year last year than he did in 2000 when we got divorced, while I'm making almost half of what I was to take care of OUR boy.

DCS cannot do anything about a court administrative order until 3 years has passed. This poses a problem for someone that might have the need to raise support but doesn't know whether the ex makes enough to be able to raise it. It has to a certain amount for them to raise it at all.

So, going back to court without knowing what the ex is making is not only expensive and a huge battle especially when you live in a different county then it's even more of a challenge. Especially when you don't have the money in the first place to be able to hire a high and mighty lawyer.

Also, when asking for a review, you have to fill in what you "think" your ex-spouse is making on the worksheets. If you really have no idea due to change in circumstances then it makes it really hard to fill in that part. In any legal matter, making sure you have the correct information the first time is very important.

Even if the info is 6-12 months old if you're into the 2-3rd year and you haven't known since the divorce what your ex made, it's a place to start when filling out the paperwork.

This information was helpful, yes. Have I ran down to DCS and filed the paperwork now that it's been the 3 years, NO. And my ex doesn't even know that I know how much he made. I like to think things through before I jump, that was the information I needed to know whether it was worth causing a big old stink between the ex and I or not.

DAMN!!! I've been so busy HERE www.piscatorialpursuits.com/uploads/UP3543.jpg all last month I've missed this thread???

Love that 12lb Maxima