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#220361 - 11/27/03 09:57 AM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
grandpa2 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 1698
Loc: Brier, Washington
Glad to hear there are tribal members with ethics around here and there.
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#220362 - 11/27/03 12:00 PM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
BERKLEY BOY75 Offline
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Registered: 01/17/02
Posts: 672
Loc: AUBURN
speaking of noodles, im gonna take mine out for some chum on the green today....i have way more respect for the indians of yesteryear than the ones of today, im not saying what the early settlers/railroad companies and there men did to them was fair at all, but this double standard of justice white justice versus native justice and the treaties need to be done away with..its no good for either side, they need all there special rights to be taken away, so they can function like the rest of society, no free housing (they cant even take care of what they got) if they would of paid for there house, they would treat it and the land with respect, but no, jus a bunch of litter and clutter around most indian housing, im not bashing them, im jus making a point, if you work for it, you will by no means jus let your place go to crap, and waste all that money..

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#220363 - 11/27/03 02:33 PM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
bodysurf Offline
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Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 324
Loc: olympia
racism seems alive and well in washington....please never come to hawaii...

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#220364 - 11/27/03 06:45 PM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
spawnout Offline
Spawner

Registered: 01/21/02
Posts: 842
Loc: Satsop
Aunty hit on something that those worried about the Canal should think about. The Skok Tribe is going to knock off close to 300,000 in the Hoodsport fishery this year, and dump every carcass back in the water, females sans eggs, males guts and all. At even a 10 pound average thats 3 MILLION POUNDS of fish waste. If any fish processor did that in a water quality impared area he would be in jail so fast it would make your head spin, and would be fined by the EPA for the cleanup, even if it bankrupted his operation. What do you think is going to happen to those Skoks? They gonna clean up the Canal? Fat chance. Talk about shaitting in your own nest! When the crab and shrimp are dead from low DO who will take the hit in the seasons next year? That would be you and me. Skoks will still fish though mad
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#220365 - 11/28/03 10:30 AM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
bodysurf Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 324
Loc: olympia
so...200 hundred years ago when there were hundreds of thousands of wild fish returning and dying in hood canal what happened to them? where'd they go?

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#220367 - 11/29/03 10:26 AM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
ed fast Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 4
Loc: portland
Wow!!!

You've got to be more careful about being racist! If less than 50% blood on the reservation is Native American, then what is the other part? Please, I am no fan of the reservation system and especially not their fishing practices, but ......... confused
Go to any part of the world and find the same situation based on class and income and lack of education. How about certain parts of Shelton just down the road? Talk about unethical fishing habits!!!!!!!

Ed
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#220368 - 11/29/03 10:39 AM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
ed fast Offline
Eyed Egg

Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 4
Loc: portland
.........I'm back,

I forgot to ask who pumped (and pumps) all those 'nutrients' into the bay in Shelton? (Oakland bay?) Who dammed Goldsborough creek? Who lined every square inch of waterfront in the bay with houses with no water treatment plan? Who clearcut every hillside right down to the creek beds and bay for the last 200 years? Okay, only 150 years give or take. My rant is done. Sorry .

Ed


P.S.

I am not a tribal apollogist. I disagree with almost every natural resource management plan the tribes operate under.
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#220369 - 11/29/03 12:04 PM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
stlhdfishn Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/29/02
Posts: 293
Loc: kitsap peninsula
So I guess two wrongs make a right eek

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#220371 - 11/30/03 01:38 AM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
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Spawnout would ya care to convert them numbers to dry ash weight then calculate the amount of nitrogen and phosphous? Per pound of wet weight will work for this scientist. wink You also realize that phosphorous is the limiting factor in regards to plankton production? :p Sheesh sorry but I really would like to see scientists stay within the realm of science? beathead BTW the prawn and crab pops down south in the canal are doing very very good beer ! Sorry but the sky ain't falling...just as I pointed out last year when chicken little cried it was. wink

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#220372 - 11/30/03 05:15 PM Re: Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
slug Offline
Smolt

Registered: 01/29/03
Posts: 78
Loc: poulsbo
Aunty,

Whether in fresh or salt water salmon carcases are eaten by other critters; bugs, bears, birds, sand fleas, crabs, and shrimp to name a few. They do not create the high nitrogen levels that we have been seeing in the Canal the last few years.

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