#220340 - 11/25/03 08:16 PM
Tribal Enforcment on Wasting Fish
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Chico boat launch.
Christopher Dunagan Sun Staff
November 25, 2003 A Suquamish tribal fisherman is in legal trouble with his tribe after violating a series of fishing rules last week at Chico Creek, according to tribal officials.
The man and possibly two others are expected to be charged with fishing in closed waters and with wasting fish by allowing salmon carcasses to rot on the beach, said Rob Purser, Suquamish fisheries director.
Some people already find it distasteful that tribal fishermen are allowed to take eggs from chum salmon and throw the carcasses overboard, but cleaning fish at the Chico boat launch and dumping the carcasses on the beach clearly crossed the line, Purser said.
The fisheries director was not specific about who would be charged in last week's incident.
On Monday morning, a boat half filled with rotting chum was still resting on the boat ramp, where it was left last week. Other fish were scattered down the beach.
The boat's owner, Mike Belmont, said he had loaned his boat to a younger tribal member.
"He's going to get a ticket," Belmont said. "He knows that."
According to Belmont, the younger man left the boat on the boat launch without cleaning up the mess when he got into an argument with a relative. A Kitsap County sheriff's deputy later escorted him away.
Tribal Police Officer Michael Stewart said he picked up some of the fish and put them into the boat when nobody else came to do it.
Another tribal fisherman, David Sigo, expressed outrage that a few violators could create problems for the quiet Chico neighborhood.
"I told those guys that they'd better clean this up," Sigo said Monday. "They are making us all look bad."
Although denying responsibility, Belmont returned Monday to remove the dead fish and continue fishing in Chico Bay.
Discarding chum carcasses after removing the eggs has been raising the ire of area residents and sport fishermen since fishing began two weeks ago.
"It's an awful waste of fish," said Virgil Ruiz, a Marine Drive resident who enjoys fishing with young people at the mouth of Chico Creek.
"If they caught them and kept them, that would be one thing," he said, "but they are just slaughtering them and taking the roe."
The Suquamish Tribe began allowing the harvest of eggs several years ago when the price of chum dropped so low that small-scale fishermen could not afford to harvest the whole fish, Purser said.
Chico Creek has surpassed its need for 20,000 chum spawners, he said, so the remaining fish are excess.
Tribal fishing off Chico Creek is in its third week of two- or three-day openings.
Between four and six boats have been taking advantage of the recent openings to sell eggs as caviar in Asian markets.
"The value is in the eggs," Purser said. "The stream is at capacity, so more fish in the stream won't produce more fish for the system."
Extra salmon that make it upstream will feed the bears, he said, but salmon left in Dyes Inlet will feed crabs and other marine life -- and give tribal members some income.
Under federal court interpretations of Indian treaties, tribes are entitled to half the allowable harvest of salmon.
So far this fall, non-Indian fishermen have taken about 275,000 fish in the South Puget Sound region, including those coming back to Chico Creek, said tribal biologist Jay Zischke. Tribal fishermen from all tribes combined have taken less than half that many.
Tribes farther south in Puget Sound will continue to fish after state-sanctioned fishing is closed, he said, but it is unlikely that the tribal harvests will catch up to the non-tribal catch.
Purser said the fishermen responsible for last week's violations have charges pending from previous incidents. As a result, he intends to recommend to the Suquamish Tribal Council that fishing privileges be suspended the rest of the year for one or more of those involved.
"The neighbors should not have to be smelling that, and it creates inconvenience for people living along the beach," he said. "There is no reason to leave fish on the beach."
Purser said anyone who experiences problems with tribal fishermen can call him at (360) 394-8436.
Reach Christopher Dunagan at (360) 792-9207 or at cdunagan@thesunlink.com.
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#220341 - 11/25/03 08:30 PM
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Fry
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"...Purser said the fishermen responsible for last week's violations have charges pending from previous incidents. As a result, he intends to recommend to the Suquamish Tribal Council that fishing privileges be suspended the rest of the year for one or more of those involved..."
Wow! Talk about punishment!!! He won't be able to fish again for 35 days. How about he won't be able to fish again for 5 years?
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#220342 - 11/25/03 08:40 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/04/99
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they stated that the nontribal sporties have caught 275K fish and that tribal not near that number can u say** the tribe hit hoodsport like ther was no tomorrow five days aweek!sure they got more than thier 1/2 of that run!
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#220344 - 11/25/03 09:00 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/27/02
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Un-flippin'-believable!! Such outlandish and blatant disregard for, not only the law and the environment, but the local population as well.
That smacks with, "What are you gonna do, restrict me from fishing for a few days? Yeah, right."
What ever happened to that law about not selling the roe without the carcass? That law was supposed to stop this kind of action. Was it not enacted or is it not being enforced?
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#220347 - 11/25/03 11:36 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 12/03/01
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Loc: manchester,Wa
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I'm glad they got busted, Mikes my buddys uncle and one of my good buddies takes there fish in, they were the ones setting there nets inside the boundarys at gorst creek and fishing on non fishing days, other netters were getting hardly anything and Mike and his younger relative had there nets so full on a couple of occasions they sank, last year Mikes nets got cut at night fishing chico creek and he went diving for the anchors or whatever and coralled a 18 lb steelhead into one of his cut nets, my buddy took it in and heard the whole story, hes also a suspected geoduck/dungeoness night diver but I wont go there, I hope they take his license away.
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#220350 - 11/26/03 05:41 AM
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Spawner
Registered: 01/03/03
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Loc: Port Orchard
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So far this fall, non-Indian fishermen have taken about 275,000 fish in the South Puget Sound region, including those coming back to Chico Creek, said tribal biologist Jay Zischke. Tribal fishermen from all tribes combined have taken less than half that many. Guess the commercials had a great season this year in area ten which was closed to sports fishermen all season except for silvers. I know damn well we didnt even come close to 40,000 this year in the south sound. As far as state tribes not getting there half B.S they have been netting every damn day since the salmon came in. Silvers Kings and Chums! Aunty who payed you off?
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#220353 - 11/26/03 12:53 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
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The only legislator with enough guts to take on the Indian issue was Slade Gorton, and the Seattle liberals threw him out and replaced him with Ms. Patty Murray.
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#220355 - 11/26/03 02:35 PM
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River Nutrients
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Of course there's no excuse, but, as usual, there are reasons. This being the day before Thanksgiving, perhaps I'm fated to play the apologist.
As long as treaty tribes are responsible for enforcing their fishing regulations, this is what we can expect for the foreseeable future. If I was a young treaty Indian, roe fishing would look like a pretty good opportunity for fairly easy cash. If I were a treaty Indian, the odds are overwhelming that my family would be highly disfunctional. If I were a young treaty Indian most likely, either I, or members of my family, would use drugs and or be alchoholic. If I were a treaty Indian, more likely than not I would have dropped out of high school. My future education and employment prospects would look pretty bleak. Hell, the odds of living a "normal" life would look pretty bleak. And the odds of living to a ripe old age would, statistically, be lower than average.
Fishing for roe isn't all that hard, as fishing as work goes. Keep the roe, and discard the carcasses, get quick cash, for booze, for drugs, maybe for groceries. As for discarding carcasses at public boat launches and on beaches in front of citizens homes - well, I'd have to care about myself first, before I could comprehend caring about what others think of my behavior.
Indians are treated as a racial minority in US society. In a lot of cases, perhaps on balance, they are treated as second class citizens - altho that hardly seems the case here, where their superior fishing rights are more or less continuously paraded. As long as Indians are treated as a racial minority, and as long as Indians perceive themselves as being treated as second class citizens, I expect that the social disfunction, lack of education, lack of quality employment prospects, drug and alchohol abuse, and irresponsible fishing will continue.
BTW, it is legal for treaty Indians to harvest roe and discard salmon carcasses. Obviously, how and where they're discarded has a large effect on opinions regarding the practice.
As sickening as the sight of wasted fish is, it doesn't bother me nearly as much as when I've seen a bunch of little Indian kids, uncared for, growing up on a reservation to be the next generation of disfunctional members of our society.
A small disclaimer: I know that not all Indians and their families are disfunctional, but we both know that much of what I've discribed above is highly pervasive in Indian culture and society. If life is better than this for you, be thankful.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Sincerely,
Salmo g.
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#220356 - 11/26/03 02:54 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
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A prisoner who is let out after 15 years is actually quite afraid of re-entering society even though prison life sucks. His life sucks but he is used to it and the unknown causes fear. To me it is the same with the Indian reservation system. It sucks but the people do not know any better and would be fearful of any change. Add to this a few fat cats (who make mucho bucks off the present system) and you have our reservation system of today.
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#220357 - 11/26/03 03:01 PM
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Anonymous
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Originally posted by Salmo g.: A small disclaimer: I know that not all Indians and their families are disfunctional, but we both know that much of what I've discribed above is highly pervasive in Indian culture and society. If life is better than this for you, be thankful.
You paint a pretty bleak picture of what its like to be an indian... I did a little reasearch to find out what the actual population percentage that are drug abusers and came up with a depressing document on the issue... the numbers are staggering... link to article The issues that have to do with indians and fishing are just the tip of the iceberg here. There are bigger problems with the quality of life that may never be solved in our lifetime. Especially as long as they are treated as a separate nation.
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#220358 - 11/26/03 10:08 PM
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Spawner
Registered: 10/21/02
Posts: 508
Loc: NE Seattle
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What pie eyed said. These racist, unconstitutional treaties are the root of many problems. I look forward to the day that the court system will uphold the concepts that "all men are created equal" and that all contracts must have an end date to be valid. I wonder what the courts would do to me if I had committed that crime.
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