#380336 - 10/11/07 04:35 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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#380342 - 10/11/07 05:17 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 11/18/06
Posts: 160
Loc: Olympia
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[quote=1bighog]I can think of no better place for a crackhead than prison. These people comprise a huge portion of violent street crime. Pot heads, meth and heroin users will commit property crimes all day long to fuel their habit. I have seen dozens of people shot and killed because of something or another to do with crack cocaine. Let them rot... Typical cop attitude. Has it ever occurred to you that a crack head has a disease called addiction? I don't like crack heads either, but I doubt jail or prison will help them. How about REHAB? If some of the millions (billions?) spent on enforcement (yes, even for crackheads) and incarceration was used for education and rehabilitation, this wouldn't be such a big problem. You can keep arresting people when they use, but this does not EVER decrease usage. ...Crack only came around after the US led missions into S America to stop the supply of cocaine. As for "pot-heads" committing "property crimes all day long to fuel their habits"... That's about the most rediculous statement I've ever heard. I'm sorry if your tough job has jaded you into this misconception, but holding onto this irroneous opinion serves to enforce the dichotomy between cops and regular citizens. REHAB? Typical tree huggin' hippie attitude. Gee... this internet name calling stuff is fun. I would love to invite you on a ride along. I would drop you off at 23rd/Union and allow you to try and rehab all the crack users and dealers you wanted. Just leave your wallet at home because you would be robbed at gun point within 30 minutes. GUARANTEED! How many crack addicts have you talked to or had any contact with? I've had contact with 100's. These people do not want to be rehabilitated! What a joke. I've never seen such a small part of a post pulled out and misrepresented. I never said all pot heads commit property crime! The ones that do tend to lean towards property crime and not crimes against persons. I was making a comment about Dave's prison stats and trying to make a point about the majority of people being in there for more serious drugs and not marijuana and that's where they belong. Lastly, I am a "regular citizen." I leave my job 60 miles to north when I go home every day. Most of the people I fish with dont even know what i do for a living.
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#380364 - 10/11/07 06:19 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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D.E.A
Registered: 04/02/06
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Why not just shoot em them then, Johnny?
...Since in your judgement they are so worthless?
If rehab doen't work (which it clearly DOES in some cases), then what does Jail do? If you are only protecting "me" from "them", why not just shoot 'em?
I'm not advocating that I should rehab them, that's not my job (BTW, I cut down trees for $$), but that the system doesn't do what YOU want it to. Every day (or not ) you "deal" with these crack-o's, and every day there is more and more of them. You arrest them, they get out, commit crimes, you arrest them, they get out, commit crimes... See a pattern?
If the money I waste paying you to do this was better spent on education and rehab the pattern would not be so prevalent...
I'm not rocket scientist, but hey, if it looks like shiit, smells like shiit, ...it just might BE shiit!
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#380377 - 10/11/07 07:25 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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D.E.A
Registered: 04/02/06
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...throwing them in jail obviously works wonders.
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#380379 - 10/11/07 07:36 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 11/18/06
Posts: 160
Loc: Olympia
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Why not just shoot em them then, Johnny?
...Since in your judgement they are so worthless?
If rehab doen't work (which it clearly DOES in some cases), then what does Jail do? If you are only protecting "me" from "them", why not just shoot 'em?
I'm not advocating that I should rehab them, that's not my job (BTW, I cut down trees for $$), but that the system doesn't do what YOU want it to. Every day (or not ) you "deal" with these crack-o's, and every day there is more and more of them. You arrest them, they get out, commit crimes, you arrest them, they get out, commit crimes... See a pattern?
If the money I waste paying you to do this was better spent on education and rehab the pattern would not be so prevalent...
I'm not rocket scientist, but hey, if it looks like shiit, smells like shiit, ...it just might BE shiit! I will continue to arrest them nightly until they get locked up a little longer each time. A day, then a month, then a year, maybe two. The longer they are in jail the longer they can't carjack or rob innocent people that got lost on their way to the freeway. Unless you own a home in Seattle, you don't pay me anything. If you do, I would like a pay raise please. Doing the job that I do with the respect given by people like you, I definitely need more money for this. Not a rocket scientist? Hey, there's something we agree on.
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#380390 - 10/11/07 08:08 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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D.E.A
Registered: 04/02/06
Posts: 1672
Loc: in da hood
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Yes I own a home. Not In Seattle. ...Metaphorical "i", metaphorical "you"
There's more like you where I live...
For the record , I have no lack of respect for "you" personally. I think there are better ways to do things than the status quo and am not afraid to be criticized by "you" for it...:)
If you are so smart, go get a job that pays well enough that you don't have to complain about it to me...
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#380391 - 10/11/07 08:21 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
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1bighog
I would love to go on a night ride with you guys. Is that allowed? How about if I promise to do an article on it . . . in STS?
Edited by Dave Vedder (10/11/07 08:22 PM)
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#380394 - 10/11/07 08:33 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
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1bighog
I would love to go on a night ride with you guys. Is that allowed? How about if I promise to do an article on it . . . in STS?
That would be a very intersesting article....especially if Dave was an undercover hippie  RVW
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#380405 - 10/11/07 10:03 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 01/01/06
Posts: 1309
Loc: Poulsbo
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Well this thread was fun...  Irie, you really got some good stuff! Also is 23/Union really that bad. I don't live in Seattle, But I have a hard time believing there is that much street crime. JY
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#380437 - 10/11/07 11:29 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Good slide in, tunaklr...where'd you get those cool shades?
Fish on...
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#380452 - 10/12/07 12:06 AM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/07/06
Posts: 2527
Loc: WA
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If you are so smart, go get a job that pays well enough that you don't have to complain about it to me...
Respect him for what he does. Any member of law enforcement gets my respect because of the amount of risk and responsibility in their job. I appreciate 1bighog. And I don't think he was complaining directly to you, and its not all about getting a job that pays the best money.
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#380584 - 10/12/07 10:37 AM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Soon to be published "Fishing for crackheads" by Dave Vedder.
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#380595 - 10/12/07 11:20 AM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Reverend Tarpones
Registered: 10/09/02
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Loc: West Duvall
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PM Sent. This sounds like a hoot!
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#380618 - 10/12/07 01:02 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Dave, let me know where you guys are gonna be and we'll get something good set up for ya...
Fish on...
Todd
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#380620 - 10/12/07 01:06 PM
Re: Victoria Drug Op
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You could invite Parker and he could be the "crack ho".
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