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#407944 - 01/25/08 01:23 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Irie]
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So do any of you care to address my question or are ya going to just continue mucking up this thread with a bunch of bs?
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#407950 - 01/25/08 01:38 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Sky-Guy]
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"A bunch of BS"

You answered your own question

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#407954 - 01/25/08 01:49 PM Re: North American Union [Re: chasbo]
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It is my firm belief that this country is run by Corporations and will always lean towards what is good for corporations. It is also my firm belief that what is good for corporations is bad for the common citizen. Therefore, this country will always lean towards what is bad for the common citizen. I don't see a true union with Mexico ever happening because then they would be held to our environmental and labor laws which would be bad for corporations and good for it's citizens.
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#407955 - 01/25/08 01:52 PM Re: North American Union [Re: stlhead]
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So Chasbo, Have you watched the movie I posted, & Have you read about what the NAU stands for? Or are you simply forming a quick opinion about the topic? I'm thinking the latter unless you care to prove me wrong.


Like I said before, I'm not totally bought into this, I've just been reading about it lately. I'm looking to you guys to argue for or against the theory and possibility.







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#407957 - 01/25/08 02:00 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Watch out... Just because your NOT paranoid doesn't mean they are NOT out to get ya!


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#407960 - 01/25/08 02:06 PM Re: North American Union [Re: hohbomb73]
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Good Map Hohbomb.

Did all of you know that Mexico will have have a new "SmartPort" located in Kansas city that is already under construction?

It will fly a Mexican flag, and be soveirn Mexican soil, in our own country!!!
Goods shipped from China will be able to land in Mexico and then be trucked duty free and without inspection all the way to Kansas City on the new superhighways, already under construction as well, right to KC. That's the map that Hoh posted. Conspiracy theory or fact???

Oh, those highways will go Right past the NAFTA HQ, which btw is also in Mexico....

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#407981 - 01/25/08 03:00 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Yup that's why various unions are so upset. But we don't inspect much as it is anyway. We need to modify our constitution:

"We the corporations of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Conglomerate, establish maximum profits, insure low wages, provide for common servitude, promote general slavery, etc. "
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#408010 - 01/25/08 04:09 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Sky-Guy!

I have not been able to watch the movie - I can only get away with so much at work.

I wouldn't worry too much about sovereign status for this port - all embassies are sovereign soil, that's why people can seek asylum at them. Also, native-american reservations are also sovereign nations inside our borders. Of course, based on accused abuses of the fisheries in Washington by tribes (that I have read on this site), maybe that's not a good example.
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#408018 - 01/25/08 04:35 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Mikespike]
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I watched the movie. And IMO it is bs.

How could the present administration possibly be smart enough to conspire to bring down the towers? and keep it a secret?

Try not paying your Income taxes and getting away with it.

Jesus? That had me thinking a bit. Thinking that just maybe God finds it necessary to send a Son to earth every few thousand years just to shake things up.

Name just one major political figure that confirms the NAU. I haven't read much about the NAU so maybe you are right. We will know your suppositions are correct when they come for our guns.

and in the end the good die young, and all we need is love.

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#408025 - 01/25/08 04:47 PM Re: North American Union [Re: chasbo]
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#408027 - 01/25/08 04:51 PM Re: North American Union [Re: chasbo]
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The world ends in four years any way.
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#408036 - 01/25/08 05:20 PM Re: North American Union [Re: The Moderator]
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OK I have watched about half of so far and don't think I can stand to watch the other half. I would rather look at footage of space aliens or bigfoot. 500 million people on earth. It would be very lonely by todays standard. The population density would be like North Dakota. Fishing would be better though and probably no wars because we would ALL be working for the MAN. As long as I am one of the 500 million sounds good to me. Maybe I could be in charge of cutting off fish heads to feed to the other 499,999,999 along with their bowl of rice.
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#408037 - 01/25/08 05:23 PM Re: North American Union [Re: stever in everett]
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You should watch the whole thing, the second half ties it all together.
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#408039 - 01/25/08 05:36 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Sky-Guy]
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I'm not in a postion to comment of the item you opened up the thread for but the customs safe ports have been done in other areas I believe. I worked on a project up by Custer, between B'ham and Blaine, that was to be used by Canadian shippers. The trucks would come over the border with a seal on them, go to the 'safe' port and then out with being inspected or duty paid until the product reached it's destination. I really don't remember all the particulars as it's been 20 years ago. It had to do with paying duty on the products, inspections and the land used would be considered Canadian similar to embassy grounds.
Vague but that's all I remember.
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#408044 - 01/25/08 05:44 PM Re: North American Union [Re: chasbo]
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 Originally Posted By: chasbo


How could the present administration possibly be smart enough to conspire to bring down the towers? and keep it a secret?

Try not paying your Income taxes and getting away with it.



1. "The Administration is merely a tool of "The Rich"...and trust me, none of us are "Rich". The Administration works best if it is NOT smart. When you have all the money in the world you can afford to keep lots of secrets. Did you not see the live footage of the Pentagon on TV clearly NOT showing ANY plane or anything that was EVER on a plane? They are keeping it a secret from YOU. ...but the evidence exists if YOU chose to look for it.

2. There is NO LAW requiring "us" to pay Federal Income Tax. Never has been. I DO get away with it, as do tens of thousands of other people... If you doubt what I say, feel free to post a link to the specific law requiring anyone (yourself included) to pay Federal Income Tax. Try reading the fine print on your next W4... specifically the section describing "EXEMPT" status...
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#408049 - 01/25/08 06:05 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Thanks for the link.

The Amero is on the way folks. Book it!
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#408058 - 01/25/08 06:43 PM Re: North American Union [Re: The Moderator]
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Edited by chasbo (01/25/08 06:45 PM)

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#408061 - 01/25/08 06:57 PM Re: North American Union [Re: chasbo]
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While I didn't watch the video, I checked out a number of websites warning about the NAU. All of the sources tended to be extreme right wing organizations. The way far right is as bad as the way far left contingent.

I really find it hard to beleive that a lame duck president is going to be able to push something like this through in the remaining 11 months of his presidency.

Mexistan is a third world country with weaker borders than ours. Why would we want to link up to that, allowing terrorists even easier access to our country?

I'm not buying it.
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#408062 - 01/25/08 06:57 PM Re: North American Union [Re: hohbomb73]
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 Originally Posted By: hohbomb73
 Originally Posted By: chasbo


How could the present administration possibly be smart enough to conspire to bring down the towers? and keep it a secret?

Try not paying your Income taxes and getting away with it.



1. "The Administration is merely a tool of "The Rich"...and trust me, none of us are "Rich". The Administration works best if it is NOT smart. When you have all the money in the world you can afford to keep lots of secrets. Did you not see the live footage of the Pentagon on TV clearly NOT showing ANY plane or anything that was EVER on a plane? They are keeping it a secret from YOU. ...but the evidence exists if YOU chose to look for it.

2. There is NO LAW requiring "us" to pay Federal Income Tax. Never has been. I DO get away with it, as do tens of thousands of other people... If you doubt what I say, feel free to post a link to the specific law requiring anyone (yourself included) to pay Federal Income Tax. Try reading the fine print on your next W4... specifically the section describing "EXEMPT" status...


Interesting, but I have a question. If you don't have to pay your taxes how come Al Capone was put in prison for Tax Evasion. Clearly he had enough money to hire good lawyers.

A guy at my work tried the not paying taxes thing. He went to jail.


Edited by Dave D (01/25/08 07:20 PM)
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#408064 - 01/25/08 07:01 PM Re: North American Union [Re: Dave D]
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Snopes 1

Snopes 2


Again, B.S.
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