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#453406 - 09/15/08 02:02 PM Making America Stupid
John Lee Hookum Offline
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/opinion/14friedman.html?em


Making America Stupid


By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
Published: September 13, 2008

Imagine for a minute that attending the Republican convention in St. Paul, sitting in a skybox overlooking the convention floor, were observers from Russia, Iran and Venezuela. And imagine for a minute what these observers would have been doing when Rudy Giuliani led the delegates in a chant of “drill, baby, drill!”

I’ll tell you what they would have been doing: the Russian, Iranian and Venezuelan observers would have been up out of their seats, exchanging high-fives and joining in the chant louder than anyone in the hall — “Yes! Yes! Drill, America, drill!” — because an America that is focused first and foremost on drilling for oil is an America more focused on feeding its oil habit than kicking it.

Why would Republicans, the party of business, want to focus our country on breathing life into a 19th-century technology — fossil fuels — rather than giving birth to a 21st-century technology — renewable energy? As I have argued before, it reminds me of someone who, on the eve of the I.T. revolution — on the eve of PCs and the Internet — is pounding the table for America to make more I.B.M. typewriters and carbon paper. “Typewriters, baby, typewriters.”

Of course, we’re going to need oil for many years, but instead of exalting that — with “drill, baby, drill” — why not throw all our energy into innovating a whole new industry of clean power with the mantra “invent, baby, invent?” That is what a party committed to “change” would really be doing. As they say in Texas: “If all you ever do is all you’ve ever done, then all you’ll ever get is all you ever got.”

I dwell on this issue because it is symbolic of the campaign that John McCain has decided to run. It’s a campaign now built on turning everything possible into a cultural wedge issue — including even energy policy, no matter how stupid it makes the voters and no matter how much it might weaken America.

I respected McCain’s willingness to support the troop surge in Iraq, even if it was going to cost him the Republican nomination. Now the same guy, who would not sell his soul to win his party’s nomination, is ready to sell every piece of his soul to win the presidency.

In order to disguise the fact that the core of his campaign is to continue the same Bush policies that have led 80 percent of the country to conclude we’re on the wrong track, McCain has decided to play the culture-war card. Obama may be a bit professorial, but at least he is trying to unite the country to face the real issues rather than divide us over cultural differences.

A Washington Post editorial on Thursday put it well: “On a day when the Congressional Budget Office warned of looming deficits and a grim economic outlook, when the stock market faltered even in the wake of the government’s rescue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, when President Bush discussed the road ahead in Iraq and Afghanistan, on what did the campaign of Senator John McCain spend its energy? A conference call to denounce Senator Barack Obama for using the phrase ‘lipstick on a pig’ and a new television ad accusing the Democrat of wanting to teach kindergartners about sex before they learn to read.”

Some McCain supporters criticize Obama for not having the steel in his belly to use force in the dangerous world we live in today. Well I know this: In order to use force, you have to have force. In order to exercise leverage, you have to have leverage.

I don’t know how much steel is in Obama’s belly, but I do know that the issues he is focusing on in this campaign — improving education and health care, dealing with the deficit and forging a real energy policy based on building a whole new energy infrastructure — are the only way we can put steel back into America’s spine. McCain, alas, has abandoned those issues for the culture-war strategy.

Who cares how much steel John McCain has in his gut when the steel that today holds up our bridges, railroads, nuclear reactors and other infrastructure is rusting? McCain talks about how he would build dozens of nuclear power plants. Oh, really? They go for $10 billion a pop. Where is the money going to come from? From lowering taxes? From banning abortions? From borrowing more from China? From having Sarah Palin “reform” Washington — as if she has any more clue how to do that than the first 100 names in the D.C. phonebook?

Sorry, but there is no sustainable political/military power without economic power, and talking about one without the other is nonsense. Unless we make America the country most able to innovate, compete and win in the age of globalization, our leverage in the world will continue to slowly erode. Those are the issues this election needs to be about, because that is what the next four years need to be about.

There is no strong leader without a strong country. And posing as one, to use the current vernacular, is nothing more than putting lipstick on a pig.
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#453416 - 09/15/08 02:26 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Have you ever written anything yourself, or are you only smart enough to cut and paste others opinions and reguritate them as your own?
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#453419 - 09/15/08 02:39 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Don't forget to practice your signature line Mr. Hokum....

Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of
Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter
of the gods.

-- Albert Einstein
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#453434 - 09/15/08 03:46 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: Thumper]
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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+21:8

Revelation 21:8 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society


But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
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#453441 - 09/15/08 04:37 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
Have you ever written anything yourself, or are you only smart enough to cut and paste others opinions and reguritate them as your own?


Whats wrong Tool?.... starting to feel really dumb and stupid as a doorknob or toilet brush? fridge I love your avatar and it represents you well. You are indeed a mindless-knuckle dragging -impotent and broke a$$ tool.

Don't get angry at the messenger because you don't like the message. lame
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#453501 - 09/15/08 07:50 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum
Originally Posted By: willametteriveroutlaw
Have you ever written anything yourself, or are you only smart enough to cut and paste others opinions and reguritate them as your own ?


Whats wrong Tool?.... starting to feel really dumb and stupid as a doorknob or toilet brush? fridge I love your avatar and it represents you well. You are indeed a mindless-knuckle dragging -impotent and broke a$$ tool.

Don't get angry at the messenger because you don't like the message. lame


Atleast I'm not a self loathing liberal mooch off society. If I mindlessly posted an coutler, rush limbaugh, and savage articles all day with nary a word from myself I wonder how long it would take you to pop a jab. Try using your own opinions and supporting them instead of posting others that seem to meld with your current opinion.

Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum
Whats wrong Tool?.... starting to feel really dumb and stupid as a doorknob or toilet brush? fridge I love your avatar and it represents you well. You are indeed a mindless-knuckle dragging -impotent and broke a$$ tool.


This insult really hurts espicially seeing as how it came from someone that just quoted the national enquirer as a source. Go back to your trailer park, call Dennis Kucinich and wait for an alien abduction, I know you read about them all the time in the weekly world news!
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#453506 - 09/15/08 08:07 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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Hey Tool! Put me on your to be ignored list. You are definitely on mine. It gives me the creeps to even type a response to you. Yikes!! sick I need a shower!!! grin
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#453661 - 09/16/08 12:37 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
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Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum
Hey Tool! Put me on your to be ignored list. You are definitely on mine. It gives me the creeps to even type a response to you. Yikes!! sick I need a shower!!! grin


Whats a matter, Can't romp in the tall grass with the big dogs? chain
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#453665 - 09/16/08 12:55 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
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romp (rmp)
intr.v. romped, romp·ing, romps

a.
b. Lively or frolicsome play that encompasses lovemaking.

banana tree banana
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#453669 - 09/16/08 01:04 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: fish4brains]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
It's one thing to wrassle with the puppies in their kennel...it's quite another to watch them cover themselves in their own excrement and vomitus and then roll around with 'em...in this case, it's more entertaining to just watch the wingnuts roll around in their own chit.

Fish on...

Todd
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#453675 - 09/16/08 01:38 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: Todd]
docspud Offline
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Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: Silverdale Wa
Willamette,
Have you ever heard the tune, "So Much Cooler Online" by Brad Pasley. That is JLH to a tee. Nothing to do but sit home in mommies basement and surf twenty websites a day. Make his little comments, be the tough guy we all know he isnt in person and spue his hate america speach. It is sad.....even sadder that anyone responds to him though.
By the way JLH, this is a fishing website. Try adding to that a bit more and spreading your political idiosy a little less. Or do you even own a rod......you probably dont even fish do you.
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#453679 - 09/16/08 01:48 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: docspud]
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docspud you and Tool need to get a room with plenty of tall grass and a large can of Crisco. banana tree elite


Edited by John Lee Hookum (09/16/08 03:10 PM)
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#453685 - 09/16/08 02:08 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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That was a quick response JLH. Mom hasnt made you lunch yet to give you you afternoon break from web surfing. I understand it now......if teh GOP stays in the white house you might need to get a job rather than a handout and would not be able to sit home in your undies all day web surfing. What a sad little man you are.
Go buy your first fishing pole.....might be good therapy for all your hate. You can start at teh kiddy pool down by cabelas. Dont let those five year olds frustrate you or put you down if you cant catch one though. Looser.


Edited by docspud (09/16/08 02:10 PM)
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#453691 - 09/16/08 02:25 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: docspud]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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cryriver rofl
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#453713 - 09/16/08 04:21 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Originally Posted By: John Lee Hookum
docspud you and Tool need to get a room with plenty of tall grass and a large can of Crisco. banana tree elite


Thats so sweet, hoping others like the backdoor action as much as you do. Thanks for your feeble attempt at matchmaking. You can now get back to your regularlly scheduled activity of pretending to be a 14year old girl to lure in unsuspecting pre-teen boys.

Todd I respect, as much as we are on opposite ends of the political spectrum, he actually forms and acts on his opions and he literary skills go much beyond cut and paste.
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#453723 - 09/16/08 05:07 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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cryriver cryriver rofl rofl


Edited by John Lee Hookum (09/16/08 05:22 PM)
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#453755 - 09/16/08 07:03 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: John Lee Hookum]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Is that the best you got? I'm strangely dissappointed. lame



Edited by willametteriveroutlaw (09/16/08 07:04 PM)
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#453756 - 09/16/08 07:06 PM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
John Lee Hookum Offline
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cryriver cryriver cryriver cryriver rofl rofl rofl
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#453881 - 09/17/08 01:04 AM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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Plus, it's free. rofl

Entertainment like this would normally cost good money. grin
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#453888 - 09/17/08 01:40 AM Re: Making America Stupid [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
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I'm sure glad Al Gore invented the internet. rofl
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