#455897 - 09/26/08 04:46 PM
Is it time for Palin to quit?
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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party. The criticism in Parker's Friday column is the latest in a recent string of negative assessments toward the McCain-Palin candidacy from prominent conservatives. It was fun while it lasted," Parker writes. "Palin’s recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity, and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who is clearly out of her league." Palin's interview with Couric drew criticism when the Alaska governor was unable to provide an example of when John McCain had pushed for more regulation of Wall Street during his Senate career. Palin also took heat for defending her foreign policy credentials by suggesting Russian leaders enter Alaska airspace when they come to America. Palin was also criticized last week for appearing not to know what the Bush Doctrine is during an interview with Charlie Gibson. “If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself," Parker also writes. "If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true." Parker, who praised McCain's "keen judgment" for picking Palin earlier this month and wrote the Alaska governor is a "perfect storm of God, Mom and apple pie," now says Palin should step down from the ticket. “Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves," Parker writes. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first. Do it for your country." Parker's comments follow those by prominent conservatives David Brooks, George Will, and David Frum who have all publicly questioned Palin's readiness to be vice president. "Sarah Palin has many virtues," Brooks wrote in a recent column. "If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness." I heard on Anderson Cooper 360 on of the pundits called Bush "a highly functioning moron" http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/26/cooper.rollins.mccain.cnn
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#455900 - 09/26/08 04:48 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: stever in everett]
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Parker this, Parker that. I wouldn't listen to a damn thing any Parker has to say.
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#455930 - 09/26/08 06:46 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Dick Nipples
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Wait until she has to debate Joe Biden...she's gonna get her ass handed to her.
It may alienate a few folks who love her because she hunts moose and is a woman (even though they, too, know she's not even qualified to run a Subway restaurant), but the other 99.876% of the electorate will see that the sham has ended, and that she's woefully not up to the job.
Fish on...
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#455936 - 09/26/08 07:13 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Todd]
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#455940 - 09/26/08 07:54 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Sara the sandwich artist?
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#455942 - 09/26/08 08:27 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Poon it! Poon it! Poon it!
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I think there's still a chance she backs out. Mark my words. Could happen this week. Romney replaces her on the ticket.
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#455946 - 09/26/08 09:01 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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But how will that look? The R's made a big deal about how choosing a VP is the first major decision a Pres makes. Won't this simply show that McCain didn't vet her properly before the decision? Or will it come out that he didn't pick her at all, but rather Rove and Dobson did?
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#455956 - 09/26/08 10:01 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Did you watch the debate?
Yeah.
Ron Paul would BURY these clowns in a three-way face-off.
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#456065 - 09/27/08 03:37 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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It must be that old "better to sit in silence an be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt" thing. You gotta be f'n kidding me............the VP pick isn't available for comment? And some of you are going to vote for that ticket? Have you heard of this Ron Paul guy?
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#456145 - 09/28/08 01:27 AM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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I am a little confused.....
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different." * Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
* If your name is Barack, you're a radical,unpatriotic Muslim. * Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable. * Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well-grounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 2 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works, and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience. * If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.
* I f you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian. * If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your broken and disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society. * If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible, (and you eloped!!).
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's. * If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.
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#456162 - 09/28/08 11:34 AM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: eddie]
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Wonder which dude she is refering to with the "one inch" finger spread.... Ouch.... I ain't buying the change on either ticket. just last week the media was entertaining rumors that Biden was going to bail out to make way for Hillary. Whatever......
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#456164 - 09/28/08 11:48 AM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Dick Nipples
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It's too late for her to go anywhere, but she's going to be the death of McSame's campaign, which is on life support as it is. When she debates Biden, she'll be so overwhelmingly unable to keep up it will be kinda embarrassing, for all of us.
Fish on...
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#456186 - 09/28/08 05:06 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Todd]
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You mean like this?
Biden on Obama
Feb. 2007 on Obama's appeal: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean that's a storybook, man."
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#456188 - 09/28/08 05:12 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Or this! More from Biden the statesman.
“I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off.”
What the hell! Will the real Joe Biden please sit down?
This debate ought to be funny as heck! Please tell me again how Sarah is going to embarass us!
Edited by Jhook (09/28/08 05:13 PM)
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#456196 - 09/28/08 06:12 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Jhook]
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Dick Nipples
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Jhook...here's your third opportunity...
Tell us what it is Palin brings to the table? Tell us how she is anti-pork. Tell us how she can see Russia from some place in Alaska.
You've had three chances now, and while you seem to think she's the savior of the Republican party, you haven't once yet been able to tell us why.
Either step up, or shut up.
Fish on...
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#456203 - 09/28/08 07:13 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Todd]
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Jhook must be getting some love....
Here's my 3 plus a bonus one:
1. She's a soccer mom turned politician...she got involved with the local issues that affected her, and made enough of an impact to run for city Mayor.....In short she made her actions speak louder, than just lip service.
2. Sarah ran for Governor, beat the R Incumbent. Fought corruption from with her own party, instead of going along with the status quo. In short she's her own woman, and doesn't bow to intimidation.
3. She wants to drill for natural resources in Alaska...(Evan though McCain doesn't) because she knows it creates jobs for the people of Alaska, as well as revenue...In short she's smart enough to go after economic growth.
4. She's made mistakes, and was smart enough to ask for an investigation for possible ethics violations...In short she's not dumb.
Mf
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#456236 - 09/28/08 09:58 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Hahahaha haha ha
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i guess that is a man inch...
but really....i usually dont have a hard time voting for who i want...but i have not heard much cause i have not cable, phone or internet at my husbands...so what little time i have i dont just look up political stuff...
as a average joe...i have not a clue who to vote for...dont trust anyone.....c
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#456240 - 09/28/08 10:10 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Todd]
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Jhook...here's your third opportunity...
Tell us what it is Palin brings to the table? Tell us how she is anti-pork. Tell us how she can see Russia from some place in Alaska.
You've had three chances now, and while you seem to think she's the savior of the Republican party, you haven't once yet been able to tell us why.
Either step up, or shut up.
Fish on...
Todd I'll step up when you shut up Todd. You trash Palin, I'll quote Biden. Don't like it? Tough. Tell me what Biden's bringing to the table? He can't even remember Obama's name! You want that quote also? All the crap you libs have been able to dig up on Palin has done nothing but solidify her camp. And it's driving the dems nuts. What's the problem? You don't have to vote for her and if everyone is as smart as you are Obama will win in a landslide. Won't he? Then of course just maybe everyone isn't as smart as you are? Dang!
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#456242 - 09/28/08 10:18 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Todd]
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Wait until she has to debate Joe Biden...she's gonna get her ass handed to her.
It may alienate a few folks who love her because she hunts moose and is a woman (even though they, too, know she's not even qualified to run a Subway restaurant), but the other 99.876% of the electorate will see that the sham has ended, and that she's woefully not up to the job.
Fish on...
Todd You gotta love a guy who has to tell others how much smarter he is than them. This isn't the only time he's swung from the trees and beat his own chest. I'm sure he's so smart he knows what's best for all of us. Kind of like how Hillary ran her campaign. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j0FS0Z6hoDoes anyone think there will be real change if we elect BO as opposed to JM? I don't. Both parties are the same. It's only about getting elected. Helping the people doesn't mean [censored]. Their first debate is about foreign policy rather than the economy during a period when our economy should have been the number one issue. You know why they couldn't switch the debate back to our economy? Because neither side is smart enough to have an impromptu debate when they've been studying the questions about foreign policy for the past two weeks. Give me a [censored] break. Joe Biden sits there and tells everyone how smart he is..... Not much different than reading this forum. It's not about the politicians ruining our country. The American people are too [censored] lazy to get off their asses and make their voice heard. What we're going thru financially in this country would have gotten people marching in the streets 30 years ago. Looking for change. Asking "if these two parties are leading us down this path, maybe we should look somewhere else." Instead, we read the poles, point our fingures, and tell the other side we're smarter than them and know what's best for them. F that. The media basically picks our nominees for us and we get to decide whether we want to pick up a pile of steaming dog S#@t or clean out the litter box. Gotta love it!
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#456248 - 09/28/08 10:49 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Non-partisan here. With what we've faced the last 8 years the D's should have had this in the bag a year ago. Instead, they have to tell half the people how wrong they are hoping for a gaff from the other side to win this election. Pretty pathetic.
I'll defer to the experts here.... Todd & KK? Why is this race so close? Fear mongering? Biased media? Or, are we all just too stupid to see what you apparently know that the rest of us don't? This race shouldn't even be close. Maybe some folks just don't like your option as the next president.
As for Palin. At least she has a driver's license and knows how to operate a motor vehicle. That puts her one step above the career politicians who have helped us get to where we are now. Take JM out of it and I might just vote for her. At least she'd be just dumb enough to put smart people in position to make her look good.
I run a small business. I hire people based on how they can help my company in different ways. They do their jobs better than I could but they also can't do my job as well as I do. Doesn't mean I'm any smarter than them. That's what I want out of my president.
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#456250 - 09/28/08 11:11 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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Dick Nipples
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This race isn't nearly so close as you'd be lead to believe.
Fish on...
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#456258 - 09/28/08 11:45 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
[Re: Todd]
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My education in real life would indicate a large portion of our population still won't vote for a black man. They wouldn't have voted for a woman such as HC either. That's not my position. It's just reality. I hope your margin for error takes that into account. If Gore couldn't win after 8 Clinton years and Kerry couldn't win after 4 GW years I don't see much hope for who the D's have thrown out there this time.
We'll see soon enough thank god. Having our presidential race go on for 3 years doesn't do our country any good. All the money that has been raised on both sides.... Where's it coming from? Not the little guy. It's going to be paid back some how and I fear it won't be the little guy who benefits.
Again, gotta love it?
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#456285 - 09/29/08 02:30 AM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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I run a small business. I hire people based on how they can help my company in different ways. They do their jobs better than I could but they also can't do my job as well as I do. Doesn't mean I'm any smarter than them. That's what I want out of my president.
It's not about the politicians ruining our country. The American people are too [censored] lazy to get off their asses and make their voice heard. What we're going thru financially in this country would have gotten people marching in the streets 30 years ago. Looking for change. Asking "if these two parties are leading us down this path, maybe we should look somewhere else." Instead, we read the poles, point our fingures, and tell the other side we're smarter than them and know what's best for them. F that. The media basically picks our nominees for us and we get to decide whether we want to pick up a pile of steaming dog S#@t or clean out the litter box. My education in real life would indicate a large portion of our population still won't vote for a black man. They wouldn't have voted for a woman such as HC either. That's not my position. It's just reality. I hope your margin for error takes that into account. If Gore couldn't win after 8 Clinton years and Kerry couldn't win after 4 GW years I don't see much hope for who the D's have thrown out there this time.
We'll see soon enough thank god. Having our presidential race go on for 3 years doesn't do our country any good. All the money that has been raised on both sides.... Where's it coming from? Not the little guy. It's going to be paid back some how and I fear it won't be the little guy who benefits. Hey!!! You might just know what your talken about Saying this thing isnt close makes me think someone sees things more the way HE thinks they should be than what they realy are. If your voting to "pick up a pile of steaming dog S#@t or clean out the litter box." I hope you don't choke on it if ya win.
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#456630 - 09/30/08 12:40 PM
Re: Is it time for Palin to quit?
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More conservative columnists think she is the wrong choice. Tic, tic,tic..... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/us/politics/30palin.html?hp“I think she has pretty thoroughly — and probably irretrievably — proven that she is not up to the job of being president of the United States,” David Frum, a former speechwriter for President Bush who is now a conservative columnist, said in an interview. “If she doesn’t perform well, then people see it. A number of conservative columnists and thinkers have publicly turned against her, or criticized Mr. McCain for choosing her, including George Will, David Brooks and Kathleen Parker, who wrote a column entitled “She’s Out of Her League” for the National Review Online.
Edited by stever in everett (09/30/08 12:41 PM)
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