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#471713 - 12/05/08 11:13 PM Could things really get this bad?
Mingo Offline
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If this guy is even half right we are in deep doo-doo.....................damn dude, we need some GOOD news about now!


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The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.

Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

"We're going to see the end of the retail Christmas....we're going to see a fundamental shift take place....putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree," said Celente, adding that the situation would be "worse than the great depression".

"America's going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for," said Celente, noting that people's refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.

Celente, who successfully predicted the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis, the subprime mortgage collapse and the massive devaluation of the U.S. dollar, told UPI in November last year that the following year would be known as "The Panic of 2008," adding that "giants (would) tumble to their deaths," which is exactly what we have witnessed with the collapse of Lehman
Brothers, Bear Stearns and others. He also said that the dollar would eventually be devalued by as much as 90 percent.

The prospect of revolution was a concept echoed by a British Ministry of Defence report last year, which predicted that within 30 years, the growing gap between the super rich and the middle class, along with an urban underclass threatening social order would mean, "The world's middle classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape
transnational processes in their own class interest," and that, "The middle classes could become a revolutionary class."

In a separate recent interview, Celente went further on the subject of revolution in America."There will be a revolution in this country," he said. "It's not going to come yet, but it's going to come down the line and we're going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen."

"The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That's going to be the big one because people can't afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You're going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop."

"It's going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and we're going to see many more."

"We're going to start seeing huge areas of vacant real estate and squatters living in them as well. It's going to be a picture the likes of which Americans are not going to be used to. It's going to come as a shock and with it, there's going to be a lot of crime. And the crime is going to be a lot worse than it was before because in the last 1929 Depression, people's minds weren't wrecked on all these modern drugs - over-the-counter drugs, or crystal meth or whatever it might be. So, you have a huge underclass of very desperate people with their minds chemically blown beyond anybody's comprehension."

The George Washington blog has compiled a list of quotes attesting to Celente's accuracy as a trend forecaster.

"The Trends Research Institute is the Standard and Poors of Popular Culture." - The Los Angeles Times

"If Nostradamus were alive today, he'd have a hard time keeping up with Gerald Celente."- New York Post

So there you have it - hardly a nutjob conspiracy theorist blowhard now is he? The price of not heeding his warnings will be far greater than the cost of preparing for the future now.
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#471714 - 12/05/08 11:23 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Mingo]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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I think I need a safety meeting.
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#471719 - 12/05/08 11:44 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Dan S.]
mreyns_tgl Offline
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better make it two danny

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#471733 - 12/06/08 01:51 AM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: mreyns_tgl]
stlhdr1 Offline
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Huh...... Don't know what to say about that.....

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#471745 - 12/06/08 11:55 AM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: stlhdr1]
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2012 is also the year that the Mayan calendar predicts a great catastrophe: http://www.theyear2012.blogspot.com/
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#471750 - 12/06/08 12:48 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Snake Pliskin]
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No. Without a nuclear explosion, our country can and will feed its people. To think otherwise is a joke. I can't and don't believe that 50% of the homes would stay vacant while 50% of the people lived on the street without the government stepping in. We can house everyone now, so why would that change unless the banks boarded up the houses and had the money to stay solvent. Otherwise the govenment would take them over and then nationalize the homes. We live in a government that still is a little responsive to the public.
We also have the ability to become self sufficeint if necessary. Most nations in the world don't. Things would be tough and a lot would change, but we could do it.

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#471763 - 12/06/08 02:40 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Krijack]
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+1 ,we are a very resiliant people with a lot of knowledge at our disposal.

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#471782 - 12/06/08 05:22 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Krijack]
Mingo Offline
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Originally Posted By: Krijack
No. Without a nuclear explosion, our country can and will feed its people. To think otherwise is a joke. I can't and don't believe that 50% of the homes would stay vacant while 50% of the people lived on the street without the government stepping in. We can house everyone now, so why would that change unless the banks boarded up the houses and had the money to stay solvent. Otherwise the govenment would take them over and then nationalize the homes. We live in a government that still is a little responsive to the public.
We also have the ability to become self sufficeint if necessary. Most nations in the world don't. Things would be tough and a lot would change, but we could do it.


that's what I have always figured on too...........smart, tough and better when our backs are against the wall. Problem with this guy is, he has taken all that into consideration in other related comments on the same topic including the massive government support / payments to farmers NOT to grow crops. The bottom line with him is not that it would finish us, far from it, but that things will be so bleak until we get sh!t sorted out........
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#471784 - 12/06/08 05:38 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Mingo]
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It seems like there are a lot of unmotivated young people around, I have wonder if the was the case 100 years ago ?

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#471906 - 12/07/08 08:37 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Oregonian]
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Interesting. I've never read this guy's stuff, but it seems pretty logical to me. It's not rocket science, nor does one need an economics degree to see that there is a brick wall at the end of bailouts and money printing.
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#471969 - 12/08/08 11:43 AM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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We are way overdue for revolution and "we the people" have always had the power to do it. However, as long as "we the sheep" allow our buttons to be pushed on minor divisive issues like religion, abortion, pot, right to die, etc while the fox's sweep in and raid the treasury it isn't going to happen. One day we'll wake up to a new government run by China and the majority will say "oh well that's the way it goes but we have to do something about that naked guy riding a bike over there".
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#471995 - 12/08/08 01:37 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: stlhead]
stonefish Offline
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Mingo,
This guy is on a serious negative downer roll with his predictions.
Does Mr. Postive ever predict anything good will happen? wink


Edited by stonefish (12/08/08 02:37 PM)
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#471998 - 12/08/08 01:50 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: stonefish]
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Doomsday................lets just see what happens shall we? I don't think any of us will have a major influence on the outcome of a prediction of this nature if it were to occur. I read something about survivalists already preparing for this type of thing. I don't recall them having any particular date in mind though. We need to start a survivalist thread.

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#472001 - 12/08/08 01:52 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: One Way]
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Can probably just do a search for Y2K.
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#472010 - 12/08/08 02:25 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: stlhead]
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Glad I have 20,000+ rounds of ammo.
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#472040 - 12/08/08 03:32 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Dogfish]
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Loc: It's funny to me!
Looks like I should stock up too. Also looks like the guys that made Mad Max were not so far off now.

Waterworld, yep that too! Son of a... Do I get gas, a jet ski, or a whole bunch of ammo, a tent, a sleeping bag and a striking stone? Mass hysteria is induced by people like this. Predicting things will happen is like tricking people into doing it. They accept that the guy is going to be right and so they do nothing to prevent it.
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#472049 - 12/08/08 04:01 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Pugnacious]
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Pug, you need to lose that avatar, every time I see it I start thinking it is something you might actually have hanging in your closet.

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#472050 - 12/08/08 04:06 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: One Way]
Pugnacious Offline
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Loc: It's funny to me!
I would but I can't. It is just too damn funny.
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#472052 - 12/08/08 04:13 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: Pugnacious]
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Fixed it for ya, cousin...


Originally Posted By: Pugnacious
I would but I can't. It is just too damn QUEER.

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#472054 - 12/08/08 04:18 PM Re: Could things really get this bad? [Re: romulus]
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In case anyone was really wondering what Romulus looks like.

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