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#496628 - 03/19/09 04:21 PM Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"?
Vic Offline
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Because the Obama administration didn't have the foresight to put stipulations or make sure there were no loopholes in the bailout plan that ensured that the money was not to be used for bonuses, they are levying a "bail out tax" on those who got bonuses? Really??? Back when Daschel's tax issues came out I wasn't sure if this administration was grandstanding or if they are woefully unprepared. Looks like woefully unprepared to me.

So the solution is to create a special tax to fix a problem that they created. Really? This seems like a dangerous precedent to set.



Edited by Vic (03/19/09 04:23 PM)

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#496638 - 03/19/09 05:01 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Vic]
Oregonian Offline
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Bad president indeed... wink

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#496645 - 03/19/09 05:29 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Oregonian]
larryb Offline
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Registered: 03/05/01
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jee i thought bush start the bail outs to aig
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#496646 - 03/19/09 05:39 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: larryb]
Vic Offline
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Posts: 553
Loc: Everett, Wa, USA
So Larry, you don't see a tax aimed at a specific group as dangereous thinking?

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#496648 - 03/19/09 05:43 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Vic]
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You mean like people who smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol?
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#496654 - 03/19/09 06:00 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: hohbomb73]
Vic Offline
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This is nothing like smokers or drinkers being taxed. If smokers and drinkers choose not to pay that tax all they have to do is stop buying smokes and booze.

This is big brother coming and taking, and it sets a precdent for them to do it again!

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#496655 - 03/19/09 06:00 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: hohbomb73]
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Posts: 461
What gets me about these bonuses is the CEO of AIG was put in place by the government when they took majority ownership. It's funny the administration can't even control the people they put in the positions to run these companies.

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#496656 - 03/19/09 06:07 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: JoJo]
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"This is nothing like smokers or drinkers being taxed. If smokers and drinkers choose not to pay that tax all they have to do is stop buying smokes and booze."

Or rich execs taking million dollar bonuses ala the tax payer can just stop taking the bonus.

"This is big brother coming and taking, and it sets a precdent for them to do it again!"

This one sets a good precendent. You f'd it up so much we the people had to bail your ass out. How dare you take a bonus. You are lucky we the people don't fire your ass or worse.
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#496657 - 03/19/09 06:08 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: hohbomb73]
Idaho Mike Offline
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A lot of money being put out there. You gotta wonder about the accountability piece. Heard on the news today that Gietner fessed up to getting Dodd to create the loophole that lead to the bonuses because he was afraid of violating contracts at AIG. If that is true, then it seems pretty bad that those who voted for it are now leading the rallying cry of discontent.
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#496661 - 03/19/09 06:10 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: JoJo]
Illahee Offline
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Registered: 05/22/05
Posts: 3771
I believe the "Bailout Tax" is meant to be a a lever to get the folks that got them to give them back voluntarily.
Seems there is absolutely no ethics in todays business world, undoubtedly one of the big reason for the recession.

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#496662 - 03/19/09 06:18 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Illahee]
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I doubt the House version is even constitutional given the makeup of the SCOTUS. The Senate will probably debate it to death and it won't pass. Probably won't become law. Judicial Committee has a better chance of getting it back by investigating for fraud.
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#496680 - 03/19/09 08:19 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: goharley]
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
I think the bonus bailout tax is a stupid idea too!

Look for it to have equal support from BOTH parties in Congress though...
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#496682 - 03/19/09 08:37 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: goharley]
alanmikkelsen Offline
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Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 209
Loc: St. Ignatius, MT
Shock of all shocks, I agree with gh.
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#496690 - 03/19/09 09:08 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: ]
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I bet he stays until things stabilize a bit. They coulda... and probably shoulda just kept Paulson though... at least until the political firestorm over this is over.

Did you catch "House of Cards" on Sunday by any chance Hank?
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#496691 - 03/19/09 09:13 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hankster


How long do you figure Geithner will remain Sec. Treas.?

Turbo tax Tim will be gone soon!
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#496717 - 03/19/09 11:19 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Sol Duc]
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Pretty sad, I'd say, that the biggest bunch of polititians in the land, can't write a damn bill that does what is intended. Instead, they pass 1100 pages of [censored] they don't even read. WTF?

Defend them all you want......all that will do is confirm how stupid "we" as a bunch of government-dependant idiots have become. "We" have a lot to be proud of.........
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#496721 - 03/19/09 11:32 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 11/24/03
Posts: 2268
Loc: Poulsbo
Ya and now ya find out a bunch of them arses haven't paid their taxes for a few years. Makes ya wanta get the hell outa here!
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#496724 - 03/19/09 11:36 PM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Bucket/Good Sport]
Vic Offline
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Registered: 12/05/00
Posts: 553
Loc: Everett, Wa, USA
I think I would rather take back what is ours!

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#496741 - 03/20/09 12:30 AM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 01/13/07
Posts: 3359
Loc: Pasco Bulldog country
Originally Posted By: Slab Happy
Pretty sad, I'd say, that the biggest bunch of polititians in the land, can't write a damn bill that does what is intended. Instead, they pass 1100 pages of [censored] they don't even read. WTF?

Defend them all you want......all that will do is confirm how stupid "we" as a bunch of government-dependant idiots have become. "We" have a lot to be proud of.........


Nicely said...



Priceless...

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#496749 - 03/20/09 12:57 AM Re: Let me see if I got this right "AIG Bail Out Tax"? [Re: Sol Duc]
JoJo Offline
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Registered: 12/06/05
Posts: 461
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
Originally Posted By: Hankster


How long do you figure Geithner will remain Sec. Treas.?

Turbo tax Tim will be gone soon!


I think Dodd should probobly leave with him.

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