#598211 - 05/03/10 03:49 PM
Are US Citizens Safe?
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Spawner
Registered: 03/27/01
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After hearing about the SUV parked in Times Square wih explosive onboard and a certain group trying to take credit for this, why is our government allowing people from the counties that produce a high volume of terrorist to live in our country? My wife is Japanese and quite a few of her relatives spent time in the camps during WWII. Why are these people allowed to stay in our country? I'm not a bigot, but this clearly shows that they can target us at any time and any place. I think that if a person is not a citizen at this time, you've worn out your welcome!
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#598219 - 05/03/10 04:26 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: charr]
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River Nutrients
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McVeigh, Kacynski, Rudolph, et al, got a good chuckle out of that.
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#598223 - 05/03/10 04:30 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: goharley]
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River Nutrients
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"My wife is Japanese and quite a few of her relatives spent time in the camps during WWII. Why are these people allowed to stay in our country?"
Your wife? I don't know.....you married her. Tell her to get out then. Go back to where they use poison gas in subways.
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#598232 - 05/03/10 04:58 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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I believe Mayor Bloomberg and NYC authorities have stated that there is no reason to believe this recent incident has the markings of al-CIA-duh, the Taliban, or any other middle eastern boogeymen despite some off hand claim of responsibility by a Pakistani Taliban group.
If you think about it,......if you are trying to recruit illiterate goat farmers to your cause in taking down the western world why would you lay claim to an amateur hour fireworks bomb attempt that killed or injured absolutely no one? I'd probably leave that one off the resume.
Interestingly enough, the report of that claim of responsibility came from SITE intelligence. The same Pentagon funded intelligence group known to be an arm of the Israeli Mossad and the same group that brought us many of the now discredited Bin Laden tapes.
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#598238 - 05/03/10 05:12 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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River Nutrients
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Yeah... but wingnuts don't wanna hear that stuff SW.
They just want to hear that Obama and the Democratic Party are middle-eastern terrorist sympathizers, hell-bent on making America "less safe".
That's what Rush, FOX News and Glenn Beck keep tellin' 'em anyway.
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#598239 - 05/03/10 05:16 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: 4Salt]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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This thread is some good stuff...welcome to the Whacky Right. Just in case you don't get enough of 'em here...here's some more very current and good stuff: http://mediamatters.org/research/201005030027Seems that a few of the RWWJ's are claiming that the Obama Administration sabotaged the oil rig in the Gulf to appease the environmental whackos... Do some people have no shame, no brains...or both? I'm going with both. Fish on... Todd
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#598242 - 05/03/10 05:37 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Seems to me that both BP and the Administration are putting the blame squarely where it belongs...on BP.
Fish on...
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#598244 - 05/03/10 05:52 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: 4Salt]
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Yeah... but wingnuts don't wanna hear that stuff SW.
They just want to hear that Obama and the Democratic Party are middle-eastern terrorist sympathizers, hell-bent on making America "less safe".
That's what Rush, FOX News and Glenn Beck keep tellin' 'em anyway. Obama's Chief of Staff enlisted and fought with the IDF. You don't get much harder on the terrorifs than those fellas. Since Obama has taken office the war in Afghanistan has been escalated, hundreds (if not thousands) of civilians have been killed by predator drone strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan, and open threats have been made to obliterate Iran. Oh yeah,.....and we're still in Iraq,......indefinately. Obama's foreign policy is Bush Light without all the stupid cowboy rhetoric covered over by a slick smile and a smooth teleprompter delivery. Which, IMO, is much more dangerous and sinister.
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#598250 - 05/03/10 06:22 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Todd]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/04/09
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Loc: Edmonds, WA
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If you pair radical actions with the term "god", bombs are going to happen, especially when you have self proclaimed "splinter cells" that finally feel that they are doing something of some importance (I aint talking Afghani peeps here, I am talking about Americans).
When you have a nation that is divided, you will have those that blame the opposition for everything and vise versa... yep, you guessed it, they may use bombs.
Political unrest can result in fat guys in tri-corn hats gathering in groups or the smug opposition that live by the assumption that they are more intelligent than others. These guys go nuts and make bombs too.
All in all, a ton of "terrorist" attacks have been by Americans on Americans, you can blame RWWJ, Al Qaeda, George Bush, Vietnam, Fox News, Glen Beck, Obamas Secret Socialist Plan, Aliens, Alex Tribecks Moustache (that is still at large), Hippies, The Chinese... you get the picture...
It ain't a Muslim thing, or a brown man thing or any other "thing" than a bunch of fucked up individuals that spend enough time convincing themselves they right, they believe it.
but go ahead, blame Fox News or LIndsay Lohan or something... that's not the problem at all.
Edited by Marz (05/03/10 06:23 PM)
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#598252 - 05/03/10 06:28 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Marz]
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Repeat Spawner
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Good post. Check out "Dying to Win" written by Robert Pape. It reinforces a lot of what you just spelled out. Alhough, without all the colorful descriptions
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#598255 - 05/03/10 06:37 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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...and we'd have less heart disease due to bacon being grabbed.
Fish on...
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#598265 - 05/03/10 07:31 PM
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The Rainman
Registered: 03/05/01
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i think you have a better chance of being shot by a gang member than being blown up by a terrorist bomb. also just heard rush say Obama blew up the oil platform to force people support nuclear power
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#598269 - 05/03/10 07:47 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/04/09
Posts: 299
Loc: Edmonds, WA
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As long as Republicans are free to wander the streets, nobody is safe.
Not here, not on other planets, not in other space time continuum, not in other dimensions.
wow...
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#598271 - 05/03/10 07:51 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Marz]
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Repeat Spawner
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As long as Republicans are free to wander the streets, nobody is safe.
Not here, not on other planets, not in other space time continuum, not in other dimensions.
wow... Don't feed the MoonBats Marz.
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#598273 - 05/03/10 07:58 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Todd]
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Spawner
Registered: 03/27/01
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Your wife? I don't know.....you married her. Tell her to get out then. Go back to where they use poison gas in subways.
Stlhead, My wife and her family has been in this country long before you were born! The point I was trying to get across but went completely over your head, was that at that time the resident Japanese in this country were locked away for it was feared that they were suspected ememy. Now we have people from the Middle East living amongst us and nobody knows for sure who the terrorist is. Does this make more sense to you or do you need further explanation?
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#598274 - 05/03/10 07:58 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/04/09
Posts: 299
Loc: Edmonds, WA
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As long as Republicans are free to wander the streets, nobody is safe.
Not here, not on other planets, not in other space time continuum, not in other dimensions.
wow... Don't feed the MoonBats Marz. I just wonder how many other social or political groups are on that list. uh oh... I hear banjos
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#598278 - 05/03/10 08:07 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Marz]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 12/12/09
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Loc: Termite Country
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As long as Republicans are free to wander the streets, nobody is safe.
Not here, not on other planets, not in other space time continuum, not in other dimensions.
wow... Don't feed the MoonBats Marz. I just wonder how many other social or political groups are on that list. uh oh... I hear banjos
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#598281 - 05/03/10 08:19 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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charr, I think the point you should have been making is that it was retarded and downright unAmerican to lock up those of Japanese ancestry in the '40's, and it would be just as retarded to do it to those of middle Eastern descent now...or brown folks in Arizona, too, for that matter.
Unless yer one of those socialists who prefers government intrusion into your private and lawful life, that is.
Fish on...
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#598293 - 05/03/10 08:55 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Todd]
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Spawner
Registered: 03/27/01
Posts: 778
Loc: Yuppie Ville
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Tood,
You are correct. By no means should people be locked up. And no, I don't like the idea of the government poking their nose into my private life. I guess I feel that during times like they are, things should be alot more difficult to gain a long term visit to our country without appying for citizenship. I feel very fortunate to having been born in this country and I have difficulty watching the landscape change so fast and the class of people that are being spawned. Do I make any sense?
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#598296 - 05/03/10 09:07 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: charr]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/27/02
Posts: 3188
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...I have difficulty watching the landscape change so fast and the class of people that are being spawned.
That sentiment has been oft repeated since the late 1700s. And that sentiment has resulted in virtually every ethnicity being persecuted at one time or another since in this country. In fact, I'll bet there's at least one WWII vet somewhere in this country that would view you with some contempt for having a Japanese wife, and he can't help but think, "I have difficulty watching the landscape change so fast and the class of people that are being spawned." Just something to think about.
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#598297 - 05/03/10 09:08 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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I know what ya mean, seeing all that ignorant,lazy, obese white trash wallowing into a Wal-Mart to load up on Chinese made crap and junk food makes me sick. Same lazy basturds that spend all their time watching Fox and bitching about the gubmint................
If it wasn't for the hard working immigrants, you know, the work two jobs, save money, and live as a family unit type thing, I'd of lost faith in America by now.. Spend a day taking phonecalls at DSHS and tell me how many times the state is forced to spend $$$ on an interpreter. Lazy bastages come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Especially when we advertise an open door and free everything. All ya have to do is sneak past the gate keeper when he's not lookin'
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#598299 - 05/03/10 09:12 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
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#598300 - 05/03/10 09:12 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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River Nutrients
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Keep them red-staters from moving here and DSHS wouldn't need interpreters.
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#598331 - 05/03/10 10:27 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag..... Amen. We need to deport everyone of those rednecks running around with Confederate flags. You can't claim allegiance to America while displaying a symbol of traiterous seccesion.
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#598338 - 05/03/10 10:56 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Todd]
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Just to keep it real Todd, The right in no way whatsoever has a lock on looniness. Just pick a forum and read the unbridled self righteous vomit. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/
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#598383 - 05/04/10 02:47 AM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: StinkingWaters]
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River Nutrients
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Be Afraid! Everyone, please be afraid a little harder. People today are just not afraid enough. We need more pre-emptive wars to calm our fears. Look to Craigs list, as a greater threat to the most U S citizen.
Edited by John Lee Hookum (05/04/10 02:49 AM)
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#598384 - 05/04/10 02:52 AM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: goharley]
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There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag..... Amen. We need to deport everyone of those rednecks running around with Confederate flags. You can't claim allegiance to America while displaying a symbol of traiterous seccesion. +1
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#598394 - 05/04/10 09:24 AM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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River Nutrients
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"Stlhead, My wife and her family has been in this country long before you were born! The point I was trying to get across but went completely over your head, was that at that time the resident Japanese in this country were locked away for it was feared that they were suspected ememy. Now we have people from the Middle East living amongst us and nobody knows for sure who the terrorist is. Does this make more sense to you or do you need further explanation?"
I understood perfectly. I was just making fun of the incoherant way you you wrote it. BTW, your wife and her family wouldn't be here if you were alive and in charge back then it seems.
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#598395 - 05/04/10 09:27 AM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: stlhead]
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River Nutrients
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"As long as I have bacon"
Why doesn't our military use the smell of morning bacon to win hearts and minds?
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#598423 - 05/04/10 12:03 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/04/09
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I know what ya mean, seeing all that ignorant,lazy, obese white trash wallowing into a Wal-Mart to load up on Chinese made crap and junk food makes me sick. Same lazy basturds that spend all their time watching Fox and bitching about the gubmint................
If it wasn't for the hard working immigrants, you know, the work two jobs, save money, and live as a family unit type thing, I'd of lost faith in America by now.. This. +1
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#598431 - 05/04/10 12:52 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Marz]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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I know what ya mean, seeing all that ignorant,lazy, obese white trash wallowing into a Wal-Mart to load up on Chinese made crap and junk food makes me sick. Same lazy basturds that spend all their time watching Fox and bitching about the gubmint................
If it wasn't for the hard working immigrants, you know, the work two jobs, save money, and live as a family unit type thing, I'd of lost faith in America by now.. This. +1 +253,826 Fish on... Todd
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#598943 - 05/08/10 03:32 PM
Re: Are US Citizens Safe?
[Re: Todd]
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Smolt
Registered: 10/24/08
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gubmint............. now thats funny!!!
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