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#614228 - 08/03/10 09:07 AM The Fundamental Transformation of America
Phoenix77 Offline
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Loc: Kent, WA
A government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take it all away.

Thomas Jefferson



The Fundamental Transformation of America
When Obama wrote a book and said he was
mentored as a youth by Frank,
(Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist,
people said it didn't matter.

When it was discovered that his grandparents,
were strong socialists
who sent Obama's mother to a socialist school
where she was introduced to Frank Marshall Davis. He was
later introduced to young Barrack Hussein Obama
People said it didn't matter.

When people found out that Barrack Hussein Obama was
enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his
father and stepfather were both Muslims,
people said it didn't matter.

When he wrote in another book he
authored "I will stand with them (Muslims)
should the political winds shift
in an ugly direction"
people said it didn't matter.

When he admittedly, in his book,
said he chose Marxist friends
and professors in college--
people said it didn't matter.

When he traveled to Pakistan ,
after college on an unknown
national passport,
people said it didn't matter.

When he sought the endorsement of the
Marxist New Party in 1996 as he ran
for the Illinois Senate,
people said it doesn't matter.

When he sat in a Chicago Church
for twenty years and listened to a preacher
spew hatred for America and
preach black liberation theology,
people said it didn't matter.

When an independent Washington organization,
that tracks Senate voting records, gave him
the distinctive title as the "most liberal senator,"
people said it didn't matter.

When the Palestinians in Gaza
set up a fund raising telethon
to raise money for his election campaign,
people said it didn't matter.

When his voting record
supported gun control,
people said it didn't matter.

When he refused to disclose who
donated money to his election campaign,
as other candidates had done,
people said it didn't matter.

When he received endorsements from
people like Louis Farrakhan and
Mummar Kadaffi and Hugo Chavez,
people said it didn't matter.

When it was pointed out that he was
a total newcomer and had absolutely
no experience at anything except
community organizing,
people said it didn't matter.

When he chose friends and acquaintances
such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn
who were revolutionary radicals,
people said it didn't matter.

When his voting record in the Illinois
senate and in the U.S. Senate
came into question,
people said it didn't matter.

When he refused to wear a flag,
lapel pin, and did so only
after a public outcry,
people said it didn't matter.

When people started treating him as
a Messiah and children in schools
were taught to sing his praises,
people said it didn't matter.

When he stood with his hands over
his groin area for the playing of the
National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance,
people said it didn't matter.

When he surrounded himself in the White house
with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro-
abortion, pro-homosexual marriage and wanting to
curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition
people said it didn't matter..

When he said he favors
sex education in Kindergarten,
including homosexual indoctrination,
people said it didn't matter.

When his personal background was either
scrubbed or hidden and nothing
could be found about him,
people said it didn't matter.

When the place of his birth
was called into question,
and he refused to produce a birth certificate,
people said it didn't matter.

When he had an association in Chicago
with Tony Rezco--a man of questionable character and
who is now in prison and had helped Obama
to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home--
people said it didn't matter.

When it became known that George Soros,
a multi-billionaire Marxist,
spent a ton of money to get him elected,
people said it didn't matter.

When he started appointing White House Czars
that were radicals, revolutionaries,
and even avowed Marxist/Communist,
people said it didn't matter.

When he stood before the Nation
and told us that his intentions were to
"fundamentally transform this Nation"
into something else,
people said it didn't matter.

When it became known that he had
trained ACORN workers in Chicago
and served as an attorney for ACORN,
people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed cabinet members
and several advisors who were
tax cheats and socialists,
people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren,
who believes in forced abortions, mass
sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers,
people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory
Czar who believes in "Explicit Consent,"
harvesting human organs without family consent,
and allowing animals to be represented in court,
while banning all hunting,
people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual,
and organizer of a group called gay, lesbian, straight,
education network as Safe School Czar and it became known
that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers,
people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Mark Lloyd, as Diversity Czar,
who believes in curtailing free speech;
taking from one and giving to another to spread
the wealth; who supports Hugo Chavez,
people said it didn't matter.

When Valerie Jarrett was selected as Obama's
Senior White House Advisor and she is an
avowed Socialist,
people said it didn't matter.

When Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director
said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher- -
and the person she turned to most for inspiration,
people said it didn't matter.

When he appointed Carol Browner as Global Warming
Czar, she being a well known socialist working
on Cap and trade and the nations largest tax increase,
people said it doesn't matter.

When he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and
avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar,
who since had to resign when this was made known,
people said it didn't matter.

When Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for health
and human services secretary could not be
confirmed, because he was a tax cheat,
people said it didn't matter..

When as President of the United States ,
he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia ,
people said it didn't matter.

When he traveled around the world
criticizing America and never once
talking of her greatness,
people said it didn't matter.

When his actions concerning the Middle-East
seemed to support the Palestinians
over Israel , our long time ally,
people said it doesn't matter.

When he upset the Europeans by
removing plans for a missile defense system
against the Russians,
people said it doesn't matter.

When he played politics in Afghanistan by
not sending troops early-on when the
Field Commanders
said they were necessary to win,
people said it didn't matter.

When he started spending us into a debt
that was so big we could not pay it off,
people said it didn't matter.

When he took a huge spending bill
under the guise of stimulus
and used it to pay off organizations,
unions, and individuals
that got him elected,
people said it didn't matter.

When he took over insurance companies,
car companies, banks, etc.,
people said it didn't matter.

When he took away student loans
from the banks and put them under
government control,
people said it didn't matter.

When he designed plans to take over
the health care system
and put it under government control,
people said it didn't matter.

When he set into motion a plan
to take over the control of all
energy in the United States
through Cap and Trade,
people said it didn't matter.

When he finally completed his
transformation of America
into a Socialist State,
people finally woke up---
but it was too late.

Add these up one by one and you get a phenomenal score that points to the fact that Barrack Hussein Obama is determined to turn America into a Marxist-Socialist society.
All of the items in the preceding paragraphs have been put into place. All can be documented very easily. Before you disavow this do an internet search.
The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a more happy ending for most of America ?
If you are an Obama Supporter don't be angry with me because I think Barrack Hussein Obama is a socialist. Far too many facts support that he is indeed a Socialist.
If you seek the truth you will be richer for it. Don't just belittle the opposition. Search for the truth. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Constitutionalists, Libertarians all need to pull together or watch the demise of a free democratic society. Pray for Americans to seek the truth and take action for it will keep us FREE.
Our biggest enemy is not China, Russia , North Korea , and Iran our biggest enemy is a contingent of politicians in Washington DC .


P. S.: I would like to add that one of the biggest problems -- if you still think "it doesn't matter" is the person that looks at you when you consult your mirror!!



Edited by Phoenix77 (08/03/10 11:53 AM)
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#614235 - 08/03/10 10:14 AM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: Phoenix77]
topwater Offline
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Registered: 06/28/00
Posts: 442
Loc: Rocky Mountain High
wow, some glaring LIES in that stupid cut and paste.

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#614236 - 08/03/10 10:35 AM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: topwater]
bait dunker Offline
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Registered: 12/06/09
Posts: 597
Topwater, which paragraphs were "glaring lies"?
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#614240 - 08/03/10 11:15 AM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: bait dunker]
Dogfish Offline
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Certainly a fair amount of intended bigotry in there against homosexuals.
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#614242 - 08/03/10 11:25 AM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: Dogfish]
Sky-Guy Offline
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Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Wow is right! ....my inner blue-blooded grey-haired conservative side is shocked! What an outrage!

cool
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#614243 - 08/03/10 11:37 AM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: topwater]
Rivrguy Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4515
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
TW not many lies at all in that bit, in fact most are fairly accurate or very accurate. Now your response, if thought out, would have been directed toward the the fact the verbiage was drafted and presented to put forth a particular view of facts. Sorta like the half full or half empty glass of water, both are correct but you choose how you wish to describe it and draw your conclusions.

Your response was really rather lame as at first read facts are as presented from that perspective.
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#614246 - 08/03/10 12:02 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: bait dunker]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3345
In the spirit of the initial post:

When those farthest to the right learned that,
despite all their venom and hatred,
he had been elected anyway,
they said it didn't matter.

They just kept the bullsh!t coming, as if it would somehow reverse the outcome. Despite being POTUS, he was nothing more in their eyes than a gay, socialist, Muslim nig*er, and they began to plot his lynching.

Well, I guess it's not entirely in the spirit of the initial post. I should have thrown in a few grammatical errors and some hearsay for added authenticity.

What a waste of time. Why did I read as much of it as I did? I knew what it was after the first riveting paragraph. Why did I feel compelled to respond? Why, why, why?

I do agree with one point made, however: Together we stand; divided we fall. Not too sure that racism, xenophobia, homophobia, and the like are the sort of values on which we will come together, though.

For the record, I am a white, lower class (let's be honest - there is no middle class), heterosexual male who refuses to associate himself with either political party.

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#614248 - 08/03/10 12:11 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: FleaFlickr02]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3345
I ask again... Why, why, why did I feel compelled to respond?

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#614250 - 08/03/10 12:20 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: FleaFlickr02]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Registered: 01/31/02
Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Congrats on passing the course, Phoenix! thumbs


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#614254 - 08/03/10 12:28 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Registered: 03/03/09
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Well guy you may be lower class and your welcome to stay there and live in semi poverty. Most with a brain that functions move on and through work and ingenuity are able to be middle class or better.

The middle class is shrinking due to a number of factors but primarily the loss of manufacturing jobs but the global trade thing and NAFTA originated where?

But in reading your post one could draw the conclusion that PT Barnum was correct about birth.
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#614260 - 08/03/10 12:35 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: Rivrguy]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
"P. S.: I would like to add that one of the biggest problems -- if you still think "it doesn't matter" is the person that looks at you when you consult your mirror!!"

Yup, those Bush voters should take a long look in that mirror and then never ever vote again. You did this country a huge injustice you idiots.
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#614261 - 08/03/10 12:38 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: stlhead]
StinkingWaters Offline
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Registered: 12/12/09
Posts: 1025
Loc: Termite Country
The real suprise here is that this post has 12 responses.

Some of you are like the chicks that have to be with the "bad boy" cause you love all the drama.

Then you cry when you get cheated on or punched in the face.

It makes for good entertainment though. thumbs

Carry on.
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#614262 - 08/03/10 12:47 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: stlhead]
stlhead Offline
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"When he set into motion a plan
to take over the control of all
energy in the United States
through Cap and Trade,
people said it didn't matter. "

The previous POTUS, strings beng pulled by the VPOTUS, tried to corner the market in all things energy. Where were you?
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#614263 - 08/03/10 12:48 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: stlhead]
stlhead Offline
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"The real suprise here is that this post has 12 responses."

So it's more surprising that you made it 13. Alrighty then.
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#614269 - 08/03/10 01:18 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: stlhead]
Salmo g. Offline
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A thread that is a waste of bandwidth. Kill it.

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#614274 - 08/03/10 01:26 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: ]
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Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
P77 isn't smart enough to troll...he believes the crap he copies and pastes.

Fish on...

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#614290 - 08/03/10 02:24 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: Rivrguy]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Registered: 10/28/09
Posts: 3345
Originally Posted By: Rivrguy
Well guy you may be lower class and your welcome to stay there and live in semi poverty. Most with a brain that functions move on and through work and ingenuity are able to be middle class or better.


Actually, I am considered "middle class," but apparently, I'm not as proud of that distinction as you are. Is being lumped somewhere in the middle of a heap of crap somehow better than being at the bottom? I say it isn't a big improvement.

Those of us who haven't worked hard enough to achieve your lofty status are glowing with pride over your accomplishments. Hope that satisfies your ego. As for the comment about brain function, I'll give it the response it deserves: (cue the crickets).

Originally Posted By: Rivrguy
The middle class is shrinking due to a number of factors but primarily the loss of manufacturing jobs but the global trade thing and NAFTA originated where?


If I understood this phrase correctly, I have no idea why you're asking me questions about NAFTA's origins. I clearly stated that I subscribe to niether party, so you must not be labeling me a democrat....

Originally Posted By: Rivrguy
But in reading your post one could draw the conclusion that PT Barnum was correct about birth.


Can't argue with you there. I took the bait; hook, line, and sinker. You'll find I'm willing to own up to my mistakes. The only thing I will say in my defense is that I had no prior basis for assuming that anything P77 posts needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Rest assured I will approach with caution in the future.

I apologize if I took any of what you said too personally, but this sure seemed like an unwarranted, personal attack.... Outside this, though, I enjoy reading your posts, particularly those about the history of salmon management in Grays Harbor.

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#614296 - 08/03/10 02:58 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: ]
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#614301 - 08/03/10 03:18 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: FleaFlickr02]
stlhead Offline
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If you are in the middle of a heap of crap are you halfway out or halfway in? Beats the bottom either way.
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#614316 - 08/03/10 04:00 PM Re: The Fundamental Transformation of America [Re: stlhead]
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I'm trying to work on that optimism thing.

I guess what I'm saying is that the middle is nowhere near as cush as it used to be. I think the pile of poo analogy was pretty clever, actually (especially if you take my point of view, which is that you're either surrounded by sh!t or you're not), but that opinion doesn't seem too popular.

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