Goat trader???

You're tryin' out for Court Jester, aren't ya ?

STFU Mr Hankie.

You asked for proof and examples, and I shoved Mr Religie Right down your fat stupid gob.

Your personal Wunderkind was your own undoing.


The only Americans that support the State of Israel are dumbfawks such as yourself that suck up faux news and lap up the propaganda of the arms dealers...the war profiteers that are the only people in this entire world that benefit from Zionism.

Your arguing tactics are so republican-like. You act like I wrote things that I did not; this is the only way you can win arguments in your immature psyche. When the fvck did I ever say anything about American support for Israel? Guess what, I didn't. Your own retarded poll shows that 15 percent of Americans do not support Israel. 20-some percent have no opinion on the matter right now. Those are significant numbers. Therefore, those 15% of Americans (a majority most likely left-leaning and a few extreme right-leaning) would severely impact an election.

What is this nonsense about historical presence of Jews in the M.E.? I don't dispute that Jews have always been in the Fertile Crescent region, but they were not supreme overlords as the Bible suggests. Anyone who looks to the Bible for a history lesson needs a swift kick in the junk.

I agree with Marsha, and will add that on a recent NPR story it was reported that Israel holds titles on a majority of it's land, bought from Jordanians, "palestinians" and others. Palestine no longer exists, hasnt for centuries or longer, and these idiots need to get over it.

It is merely a geographical area at best, never a country. Fawk the murdering palestinians. I suppose you have a Rachel Corrie poster on your wall?

Seeing how it took you 2 posts to convey your argument, I determine that you have Alzheimer's, just like your hero. There is medication for that you know.

1 vote can make the difference, but not in a presidential race. If 15% of Americans won't vote for you because you believe in a pure, Jewish state, then you're probably not going to win the election as Gore learned.

BD...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

You might learn a little about how Israel was formed, too.

I think we ought to arm the Palestinians as well as we've armed the Israelis. They might then blow each other to smithereens, and the world will be without two of its biggest problems. Win-win. In hind sight we should have handled the Iraq-Iran war the same way. If they had obliterated each other, the world would be a better place today.

Sg

"I think we ought to arm the Palestinians as well as we've armed the Israelis. They might then blow each other to smithereens, and the world will be without two of its biggest problems. Win-win. In hind sight we should have handled the Iraq-Iran war the same way. If they had obliterated each other, the world would be a better place today.


The leaders of the Palestinians would have sold off the weapons and pocketed the money just like they do all aid that comes into help the Palestinian people. Their own leaders and the opposing forces that profit from the continued poverty of the Palestinian people would never allow it to end. You mistake US and others foreign policy and Israel for the bad guys.

TJ,

No doubt I make some mistakes, but it ain't hard to see that the middle east has been nothing but trouble for the other nations sharing this planet for my entire lifetime. Without 'em, the rest of us are better off.

Sg

"Without 'em, the rest of us are better off."

You are using a lot of technology developed by the Israeli war machine and sold to US companies just to type that last sentence on the net. Just like you use lots of WWII and Vietnam war technology every time you go fishing or do just about anything. A side effect of war is advancement of tecnology and therefore society. Your statement holds true about Palestine however they produce zero by design.

WTF ?
Last time I looked, National Socialism was defeated in 1945.

War does accelerate the development of technology in much the same way as the space program does.

I'd gladly go without my GPS unit and cellphone if the Israeli war machine was put to rest.

I made due without it before,..... I'll make due again.

You assume these technologies would have never come to light without the existance of war. A poor assumption at best.

I find it ironic the Israelis use the Holocaust as a justification for their treatment of the Palestinians.

The Gaza Strip and the West Bank are nothing more than two giant concentration camps.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

Indeed it is.

Although your assuming that the only need for these technologies relates to uses in a wartime environment. I think we can both agree the need for these technologies transcribes far beyond uses on the battlefield.

I'm simply contending that the need would have eventually arose. Spawing the invention of these technologies without the war factor.

It is hard to name a technology you use today that cannot be traced at its root source back to a war era govt sponsored research project so it is hard to say for sure . But I would bet against you.

True, but if the capital and/or credit existed to fund wartime government projects then it would have existed otherwise.

I'll admit, it's a philisophical question that will likely never be answered.

Although, in no way is it a justification for the liberal use of military force by the US or the Israelis.

So you use an Israeli occupation of the Palestinian people to justify the advancement of technology? No wonder the Muslim world hates us so.