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#699839 - 08/18/11 04:23 PM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: Rivrguy]
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Damn... that was pretty funny. Any excuse to take things lightly is becoming my motto.

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#701891 - 09/01/11 08:45 PM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: stlhead]
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Originally Posted By: stlhead
"First of all, the discussion is about personal income tax, not corporate taxes so you are lumping apples in with oranges."

The fruit is in one basket and should NEVER be a seperate discussion. This nation needs x dollars of revenue to operate. Even after cuts it's gotta come from that basket.


Know what Steelhead, you are right, and Warren should pay his corporate taxes, all 10 years of the back ones especially.

Warren Buffet


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#701956 - 09/02/11 11:17 AM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: DBAppraiser]
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"The company says it expects to "resolve all adjustments proposed by the US Internal Revenue Service" within the next year."

"It's not only rich corporations that are legally able to avoid paying taxes either. Some 1,400 millionaires paid no income taxes whatsoever in 2009, according to tax data from the Internal Revenue Service."
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#701965 - 09/02/11 11:39 AM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: stlhead]
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Kinda proves Buffet's point. Why has his company been allowed to not pay its taxes as far back as 2002? Would someone making only $60K annually be able to get away with this?

Stop coddling the rich fukkers.
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#702066 - 09/02/11 04:04 PM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: stlhead]
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Along with about 50% of the population who don't pay taxes and still get a refund. So if the rich don't pay, 50% don't pay, then who does .................. ah hell that only leaves the middle class! Oh craps they are disappearing as we export jobs and crush small business.

I got it none of us pay taxes and the government can take a .......... laugh
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#702322 - 09/05/11 02:43 AM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: topwater]
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Originally Posted By: topwater
Originally Posted By: goharley
This is simply another attempt at big business and speculators to tap into money from the middle class. Same arguements as privatizing SS: having the military invest in a Thrift Savings Plan is just code for "give your money to Wall Street to use to Wall Street's advantage."


pure class warfare. take from the poor and middle class and enrich the top 1%.

privatizing military retirements and SS is just another transfer of wealth from lower incomes to upper incomes.

this is the true class warfare that's being waged in america.... not the attempt to see high income earners pay an extra 3% in income taxes.


Not necessarily, you can put restrictions on the types of investments, so you dont have 10,000 people who might enter retirement every day, find out their retirement followed the DOW into the toilet. As you get closer to retirement, most if not all investment advice is to be in little or no risk CD or bonds and not in stocks. Preferred stocks may work. Annuities are not immune from the stocks crashing. Most mutual fund managers do not beat the S and P 500 average, so thats not a reliable place either. On the other hand, congress spends it and hopes everyone behind you is paying enough. With only 2 workers paying for each retired person SS is in need of restructuring.

You assume that increased taxes on high incomes and corporations will not affect wages. All other payroll taxes are part of your burden cost to the employer. Ive seen teamster drivers take the bulk of the wage increases in a contract and actually CUT the starting wage of future drivers, that was 2006. Those contracts also designate how much is going to the wages, pensions and health care and older employees often want more money put into their pension.

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#702341 - 09/05/11 11:30 AM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: Fast and Furious]
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Another similar practice (a recent change, I think) is to hire and collect for benefits not receivable for two years. Baffles me how that is even legal.
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#1051006 - 04/22/21 01:13 PM Re: Congress must stop coddling billionares [Re: stlhead]
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