#704319 - 09/15/11 10:34 AM
$11,000,000 to Tribes
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Money awarded to tribes in the form of grants to help boost their law enforcement needs. At least two of those tribes have rather large popular money-making Casinos that I know of. Seems kind of hinky for the US Government to offer grants to a sovereign nation for law enforcement ...unless it counts as foreign aid. Tribe Grants Maybe this will help them to nab the Crab Bandits!
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#704325 - 09/15/11 11:28 AM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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River Nutrients
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We could just give the Native Americans back their land.
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#704326 - 09/15/11 11:31 AM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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Poodle Smolt
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They are allowed to use their gas tax rebate money to fund their police force, and a number of the tribes mentioned not only have stations, but they are also awash with lots of money. Don't see why these folks need an additional grant. Typical waste of money.
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#704328 - 09/15/11 11:41 AM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
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We could just give the Native Americans back their land. How long do we have to keep paying for it?
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#704334 - 09/15/11 12:11 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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Are the tribes Sovereign or not? Cherokee Nation
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#704373 - 09/15/11 03:04 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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So if the Cherokees win their legal battle, does that mean the U.S. and the Western States have a legal precedent to fight the portion of the Pt. Elliot Treaty that the Judge Boldt decision rests upon?
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#704400 - 09/15/11 04:58 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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I sure as hell hope so....
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#704401 - 09/15/11 05:08 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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The treaty with the cherokee's would be independent of any other treaty. That said, I would think that if they decide to break the treaty or refuse to abide by the terms of it, then the states would have the right to void it with cause. THe only reason for a court case would be to try to make the tribe follow the uphold the treaty. A treaty is in many ways like a contract. I would think that if one side violates the provision the remedies are to agree to the near terms (or ignore), to ask the courts to uphold the terms of the treaty, or to declare the treaty null and void. It looks like they are looking for a court remedy when what would be more prudent would be to declare the treaty null and void. They should do so immediately. Take all their rights away, take away a funding and then see how every other tribe starts to fall in line.
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#704407 - 09/15/11 05:40 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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CCA's Ballot Measure which is now a case in front of the Oregon Supreme Court will be the next test of the treatys. I haven't seen them lose one yet and in most cases the tribes walk away with way more than they were asking for in the first place. This should be interesting!
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#704408 - 09/15/11 05:42 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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MM I dont know if you have kids in Snohomish county that use the YMCA or involved with Boys and Girls Club, or handicapped family members, or anyone in your family that may be considered a Senior. There are many programs that are funded at a high percentage of local Tribal money--about $3.5 million per year for over the last 10 years. Just last year Marysville High School recieved $1.26 million from the same tribe that allowed for up to date technology labs, sports support for -due to school districts cuts-all Tribal and Non Tribal children of the school benefitted. Provides over 3,000 job opprotunities (to Tribal and Non Tribal) Huge contributor to United Way. YMCA YOUTH CENTER Little Red School House Boys and Girls Giving Back to the Community They just funded $70million for Tulalip Everett Water. Does not seem all to bad does it
Edited by Coho (09/15/11 05:54 PM)
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#704413 - 09/15/11 06:12 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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CCA's Ballot Measure which is now a case in front of the Oregon Supreme Court will be the next test of the treatys. I haven't seen them lose one yet and in most cases the tribes walk away with way more than they were asking for in the first place. This should be interesting! Do you have a link to this SBD? Coho, I don't have an issue with Tribes making contibutions to local organizations. The Tulalip Tribe is actually an example of a Tribe that gets it. They are an active part of the community, and they actively give back. Sadly all of the Washington Tribes are not the same. What I have an issue with is an unfair monopoly granted to the Tribes because of political campaign contributions, making them yet again a special class of people. Gas taxes, cigarette taxes, casino's are all monopolies that have been given away to the Tribes. Adding the federal grant, again taxpayer money, to pay expenses for something already covered for by existing law enforcement, and tax payer revenues (gas taxes) doesn't make sense. At a time when Thurston and Grays Harbor counties are laying off staff, seeing monies go to small departments who police a very small population, it is very frustrating.
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#704414 - 09/15/11 06:14 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
[Re: Coho]
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Coho,
I would think the Tulalip Tribes might have wanted that $1.26 million to go to Quil Ceda and/or Tulalip elementary instead of the high school. As stated in a previous conversation the test scores for those two elementary schools are atrocious.
If the Tulalip Tribes have the money to donate to those organizations...on and off the Reservation, then they have enough money that a U.S. Government Grant isn't needed.
The entire point I was trying to convey in my initial post is that the Tribe, with the amount of money rolling in through both of their casinos should be autonomous, and be able to cover the funds needed for their Tribal Police, and social programs.
Edited by MartyMoose (09/15/11 06:17 PM)
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#704415 - 09/15/11 06:15 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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#704422 - 09/15/11 06:46 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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How much money does the US gov give to these Sovereign nations and how much are they bound by treaties to give them. Time for a 100 year warning that its over. I would vote for Obama if he would put an end date to this Bulzhit. If the US was takin over would the treaties be upheld by the new gov.
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#704529 - 09/15/11 11:43 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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River Nutrients
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Where does it say the tribes are involved?
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#704531 - 09/15/11 11:48 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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It's a very long read but there's a bunch of issues listed in the AG letter.
Edited by SBD (09/15/11 11:49 PM)
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#704532 - 09/15/11 11:51 PM
Re: $11,000,000 to Tribes
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
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We could just give the Native Americans back their land. In case you haven't noticed, $1,260,000 these days wouldn't even build a one-room schoolhouse that was up to code. Most of you assfvcks wouldn't even bat a fvckin' eye if it was a $1,260,000 grant for a new fish ladder or GED's for illiterate hillbillies. It's all over if some filthy injun blanket-asses get thrown a bone, though. "Treason!" or some other such nonsensical bullschit. Retards.
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