Money awarded to tribes in the form of grants to help boost their law enforcement needs.

At least two of those tribes have rather large popular money-making Casinos that I know of. Seems kind of hinky for the US Government to offer grants to a sovereign nation for law enforcement ...unless it counts as foreign aid.

Tribe Grants

Maybe this will help them to nab the Crab Bandits!

We could just give the Native Americans back their land.

They are allowed to use their gas tax rebate money to fund their police force, and a number of the tribes mentioned not only have stations, but they are also awash with lots of money. Don't see why these folks need an additional grant. Typical waste of money.

How long do we have to keep paying for it?

Are the tribes Sovereign or not?

Cherokee Nation

Treaties between Indian tribes and the US are the "supreme law of the land." Seems like the expulsion of the freedmen violates the treaty and therefore the US Constitution. Naughty Cherokees!

So if the Cherokees win their legal battle, does that mean the U.S. and the Western States have a legal precedent to fight the portion of the Pt. Elliot Treaty that the Judge Boldt decision rests upon?

I sure as hell hope so....

The treaty with the cherokee's would be independent of any other treaty. That said, I would think that if they decide to break the treaty or refuse to abide by the terms of it, then the states would have the right to void it with cause. THe only reason for a court case would be to try to make the tribe follow the uphold the treaty. A treaty is in many ways like a contract. I would think that if one side violates the provision the remedies are to agree to the near terms (or ignore), to ask the courts to uphold the terms of the treaty, or to declare the treaty null and void. It looks like they are looking for a court remedy when what would be more prudent would be to declare the treaty null and void. They should do so immediately. Take all their rights away, take away a funding and then see how every other tribe starts to fall in line.

I'd start with giving them there buffalo back first.Then casino's for fish,Oh wait it's to late.Good luck,
SZ

CCA's Ballot Measure which is now a case in front of the Oregon Supreme Court will be the next test of the treatys. I haven't seen them lose one yet and in most cases the tribes walk away with way more than they were asking for in the first place. This should be interesting!

MM

I dont know if you have kids in Snohomish county that use the YMCA or involved with Boys and Girls Club, or handicapped family members, or anyone in your family that may be considered a Senior. There are many programs that are funded at a high percentage of local Tribal money--about $3.5 million per year for over the last 10 years.

Just last year Marysville High School recieved $1.26 million from the same tribe that allowed for up to date technology labs, sports support for -due to school districts cuts-all Tribal and Non Tribal children of the school benefitted.

Provides over 3,000 job opprotunities (to Tribal and Non Tribal)

Huge contributor to United Way.

YMCA YOUTH CENTER
Little Red School House
Boys and Girls
Giving Back to the Community


They just funded $70million for Tulalip Everett Water.

Does not seem all to bad does it

Do you have a link to this SBD?



Coho, I don't have an issue with Tribes making contibutions to local organizations. The Tulalip Tribe is actually an example of a Tribe that gets it. They are an active part of the community, and they actively give back. Sadly all of the Washington Tribes are not the same.

What I have an issue with is an unfair monopoly granted to the Tribes because of political campaign contributions, making them yet again a special class of people. Gas taxes, cigarette taxes, casino's are all monopolies that have been given away to the Tribes. Adding the federal grant, again taxpayer money, to pay expenses for something already covered for by existing law enforcement, and tax payer revenues (gas taxes) doesn't make sense. At a time when Thurston and Grays Harbor counties are laying off staff, seeing monies go to small departments who police a very small population, it is very frustrating.

Coho,

I would think the Tulalip Tribes might have wanted that $1.26 million to go to Quil Ceda and/or Tulalip elementary instead of the high school. As stated in a previous conversation the test scores for those two elementary schools are atrocious.

If the Tulalip Tribes have the money to donate to those organizations...on and off the Reservation, then they have enough money that a U.S. Government Grant isn't needed.

The entire point I was trying to convey in my initial post is that the Tribe, with the amount of money rolling in through both of their casinos should be autonomous, and be able to cover the funds needed for their Tribal Police, and social programs.

How much money does the US gov give to these Sovereign nations and how much are they bound by treaties to give them. Time for a 100 year warning that its over.
I would vote for Obama if he would put an end date to this Bulzhit. If the US was takin over would the treaties be upheld by the new gov.

Thanks.

Where does it say the tribes are involved?

It's a very long read but there's a bunch of issues listed in the AG letter.

In case you haven't noticed, $1,260,000 these days wouldn't even build a one-room schoolhouse that was up to code.

Most of you assfvcks wouldn't even bat a fvckin' eye if it was a $1,260,000 grant for a new fish ladder or GED's for illiterate hillbillies.

It's all over if some filthy injun blanket-asses get thrown a bone, though.

"Treason!" or some other such nonsensical bullschit.
Retards.

It isnt the fact that they were thrown another bone dipschit.

The problem lies in the way the treaties were writen and interpratated.
The thought that someone that has lost a father to a war while fighting for this country has nowhere near the special rites that someone that had a great great great grandfather that was a tribal member is ridiculous. It's like handing out checks now to the great Grandchildren of slaves. The fact that the people with the authority to sign them probably didn't have a clue as to what they were signing makes me ill.

better long term vision or better lawyers and judge
ya wanna live on American money ? be part of the team.

Too far out there!

If I held a gun to your head with the hammer back and my finger on the trigger. Then instead of pulling the trigger, I lowered the hammer and holstered my piece, you think I didn't give you anything?
You, sir, are an idiot.

Millions of dollars spent daily on the comforts for Illegal aliens-school, housing, food, health care.

Millions spent for "i cant work and support my fam" insurance and comp..


$1.2 mill-does not buy much Irie-but it kept some kids in sports (not that you would care) and upgraded out dated tools for school--more than what most would give effort too.

The analogy, dimwit, is the relationship the Feds had with the Tribes when they were herded onto reservations. They lost the war.....or were about to, before we (oh, never mind....you don't get that...the U.S.) "holstered" their weapons instead of wiping out the Tribes. Did the Tribes have it the way they wanted it? NO. Did they get the gift of allowing to continue.....YES.
And that was only the beginning of hand outs to the Tribes.

You are the reason that some folks have to go on and on explaining the simplest of things. Difference is, they care whether or not you understand......I don't.

The whole point Aunty was making out was that they don't need the grant. Pure and simple, they have the money but spend it else where. We are idiots to be giving it too them. Kind of like a freind I know whose kids live with him and refuse to pay rent. They pay for their kids to go to disney land, buy new cars and likewise. And why not, until he kicks them out they can do as they please. Its time we cut the gravy train for things we are not required by treaty to give to them. And remember, a large percentage of the time you see the tribe "donating money" its due to the requirements of their gambling compact, which requires public contributions instead of paying taxes.

The States are not sovereign nations you dolt.

And it is also not about Indian hating at all. It's about special treatment....and not about special treatment to bring things to a level playing field, it's about giving one race priorities over another, doesn't matter which race you choose, either. In this country we are ALL created equal. (I heard those words somewhere).

I am beyond done with you BWP. Somewhere along the line, you lost it, and it isn't my job to help you find it, but I hope you do.

signed,
the Evil One

The puyallup tribe is anything but poor. They give each member about $1800.00 a month. For those under 18, a large percentage is invested and kept in trust for them. I talked to a few young members who said their lump payment upon turning 18 was up over $100,000. But, the state and feds still pay for their schools, police, health care and much more. Some of it is mandated, but much is not. We are suckers to keep doling it out.