#713692 - 10/28/11 02:54 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: chasbo]
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Three Time Spawner
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Loc: Silverdale Wa
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Coley-
I have never "pressed charges" on anyone for anything as I have never found the situation where it could not be dealt with in some other way be it busting knucks or talking/yelling it out. So go ahead and you can give me an example as I am not following where you are trying to go with this.
Chasbo-
Not trying ot put words in your mouth but that is how it struck me when I read the story. If wrong.....my bad.
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#713693 - 10/28/11 03:01 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: docspud]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
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I am not trying to be facetious. I hear that term quite a bit and in a number of different contexts and so I am simply trying to better understand what is commonly intended when folks use it.
Another unfortunate example of how I think television, among other factors, has caused confusion about how our legal/penal system works.
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#713706 - 10/28/11 03:58 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: chasbo]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: AK
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I'll try and share my understanding. Someone more knowledgeable on the subject please feel to chime in.
Regarding criminal matters, e.g. a law was broken, law enforcement personnel are the only folks who can 1) issue citations, 2) make arrests, the two components that make up what I think most refer to as "pressing charges." Citations can take a few different forms, either a collateral citation (pay a fine), or mandatory appearance, which is requiring someone to show up and talk to a judge for their penalty. Being arrested is fairly straightforward. A person is taken into custody and formally charged, by the arresting agency, with having committed a crime.
As a private citizen, our only dealings with criminal issues would be notifying LE, and/or providing accounts, testimony, etc. Although LE folks sometimes take our preference and opinions into account in making their decisions on appropriate courses of action, but they are certainly not required to do so, and often times don't. In other words, we have no real say as to whether or not "charges are pressed."
We, the private citizens of the US, have the civil system to help us seek remedy for alleged wrong doings that harm us. These wrong doings may be criminal in nature, but don't necessarily have to be. Instead of "pressing charges" what we would be doing is seeking a civil remedy for the alleged wrong doings. In other words, trying to demonstrate in court that damages were suffered, and certain actions (or lack thereof) were the cause of said damages, and then of course request that a suitable remedy be made, financial or other.
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#713715 - 10/28/11 04:23 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: Irie]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
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ummm, i think RvW knows more about guns, and laws, than both of us combined... pretty harsh statement there. Go fvck yourself, queer. I could outgun that faggoty little churchboy any day of the week. Near or far. A little liquid courage and you almost sound like a big girl. I could outshoot, outfight and outphvck you...anytime, near or far.
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#713720 - 10/28/11 04:47 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: RowVsWade]
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 02/09/07
Posts: 1420
Loc: Your monitor
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Pics or it didn't happen!!!!
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#713731 - 10/28/11 05:16 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: OPfisher]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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who da thunkit?
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#713739 - 10/28/11 06:16 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: ColeyG]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 06/14/11
Posts: 341
Loc: Lake Stevens, Wa
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I was under the impression that in certain cases a citizen can make a 'Citizen's Arrest'. Now this could also be tied back to too much TV as a kid watching cop shows, but it has always stuck in my head.
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#713742 - 10/28/11 06:20 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: RowVsWade]
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Juvenile at Sea
Registered: 02/13/03
Posts: 128
Loc: Puyallup
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I could outshoot, outfight and outphvck you...anytime, near or far. [/quote] Sounds like one hell of a triathalon! When is this competition?
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#713749 - 10/28/11 07:07 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: MartyMoose]
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Ranger Danger
Registered: 02/08/07
Posts: 3076
Loc: AK
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I was under the impression that in certain cases a citizen can make a 'Citizen's Arrest'. Varies state by state. Some states have a provision for a citizens arrest or detainment of a criminal for certain offenses, most do not. Attempting such a thing would likely result in both civil and criminal action against the person attempting to make a citizens arrest. In other words, not recommended.
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#713806 - 10/28/11 09:30 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: RowVsWade]
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Big_Daddy
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ummm, i think RvW knows more about guns, and laws, than both of us combined... pretty harsh statement there. Go fvck yourself, queer. I could outgun that faggoty little churchboy any day of the week. Near or far. A little liquid courage and you almost sound like a big girl. I could outshoot, outfight and outphvck you...anytime, near or far. You 3 guys should all get together and meet each other... I'd pay to see that one........
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#713814 - 10/28/11 09:41 PM
Re: poacher!
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 3359
Loc: Island Time
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You guys should all get together and meet each other... Maybe after I get done with Church we could....
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"...the pool hall I loved as a kid is now a 7-11..."
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#713815 - 10/28/11 09:43 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: RowVsWade]
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redhook
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ill bring the smoked salmon!!
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#713818 - 10/28/11 09:45 PM
Re: poacher!
[Re: RowVsWade]
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Big_Daddy
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You guys should all get together and meet each other... Maybe after I get done with Church we could....
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#713915 - 10/29/11 04:12 AM
Re: poacher!
[Re: RowVsWade]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
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You guys should all get together and meet each other... Maybe after I get done with Church we could.... Iron sights or optics, bitch. Either way you're hanging pig.
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