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#731142 - 01/06/12 03:11 PM Rule #1....
Driftin' Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Offshore
Treat every firearm as if it is loaded....

Oops!

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#731145 - 01/06/12 03:13 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Driftin']
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The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Wow he should have known better and cleared it first...why hope or guess that it's unloaded?
Darwin award candidate there..
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#731146 - 01/06/12 03:14 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Sky-Guy]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
You can't train or legislate away stupid.

Fish on...

Todd
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#731147 - 01/06/12 03:14 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Driftin']
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River Nutrients

Registered: 08/14/06
Posts: 2463
Loc: edmonds
The serviceman, who had been drinking...

word...

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#731148 - 01/06/12 03:16 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Sky-Guy]
stlhead Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 6732
Even more shocking that he was a graduate. I guess you don't need to be too smart to be a seal.
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#731155 - 01/06/12 03:54 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: stlhead]
Driftin' Offline
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Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 1728
Loc: Offshore
Have some doubts 'bout it being solely an alcohol-induced stupor moment. Maybe he got too far ahead of himself with little Miss Hottie....

wink

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#731176 - 01/06/12 04:54 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: ]
fish4brains Offline
Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah

Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6210
Loc: zipper
wait, are we supposed to feel sorry for him because he was a seal, or call him a dumba$$ like we would anyone else?
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#731177 - 01/06/12 04:58 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: fish4brains]
JTD Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3007
Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA


Whether he cleared it or not, why would you intentionally put it to your head and pull the trigger?
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#731178 - 01/06/12 04:58 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: fish4brains]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
We're supposed to call him a dumbass, because he was (is?) a dumbass, Navy SEAL or not.

Fish on...

Todd
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#731185 - 01/06/12 05:19 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Todd]
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
If true, the SEALs need to revisit their vetting process.

Only 22 and a SEAL ??????
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#731191 - 01/06/12 06:08 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Direct-Drive]
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Registered: 06/30/04
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Loc: Silverdale, WA
Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
If true, the SEALs need to revisit their vetting process.

Only 22 and a SEAL ??????


8 weeks for Recruit Training, 8 weeks at the Naval Warefare Prep school, 3 weeks BUD/S Orientation, 7 weeks for Phase 1, 7 Weeks for Phase 2, 7 weeks for Phase 3, 26 weeks for SQT. Once a Sailor completes SQT they are then awarded thier Tridents and assigned to a SEAL team. Of course all times are approx since Sailors often get rolled back but it would be easy for someone who joined the Navy at 18 to complete the training prior to thier 22d birthday.

When I say "Easy" I mean the time line/frame not the training.
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#731194 - 01/06/12 06:14 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: gvbest]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Which Phase is "don't point a fuckin gun at your head and pull the fuckin trigger"...Phase?

Fish on...

Todd
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#731203 - 01/06/12 06:42 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Todd]
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Loc: Offshore
Originally Posted By: Todd
You can't train or legislate away stupid.


Seems that you've already answered your own question....

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#731215 - 01/06/12 07:24 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: ]
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2112

Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
I always treat my firearms as if they were loaded because they are loaded. They don't work well otherwise.


LOL

agree

chances are he wasn't a member of team 6.
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#731464 - 01/08/12 02:27 AM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Brewer]
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WINNER

Registered: 01/11/03
Posts: 10363
Loc: Olypen
I've got a pic of me off the road in my 5 day old Jeep which just went down the road on its top and them flipped end over out in the Dickey area. Some stupid fukn drunk (me) at the wheel, drunk and elk hunting. Don't discount the booze aspect of good sense.
That was 25 years ago.....a little more, more like thirty.....since I've been sober almost 25 years now.
Both the Jeep and I survived my drinking.......but not by much.
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#731469 - 01/08/12 10:34 AM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: ParaLeaks]
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Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 152
Loc: Snohomish Co, Wa
bummer..at least he didn't point it at someone else. friggin booze.....

There are some purdy craze utube vids out there. The guy that shoots himself in front of his class is another amazing one. The list is endless. A friend of mine was right by the guy at the kingdome that was fondling his sidearm in his pocket and shot himself. That was quite a while back, but I'm sure some of you remember that.

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#731485 - 01/08/12 01:02 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: GEAR MONGER 2]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
It is apparent, by the incident given, that Seal training is concentrated
on the physical not the mental characteristics of their candidates.
It is truly amazing how many people are killed or injured by unloaded
guns.

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#731506 - 01/08/12 02:59 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Illyrian]
gvbest Offline
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Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
Originally Posted By: Illyrian
It is apparent, by the incident given, that Seal training is concentrated
on the physical not the mental characteristics of their candidates.
It is truly amazing how many people are killed or injured by unloaded
guns.


While this incident was stupid, anyone who has known or worked with SEALs would know that they are usually mentally strong as they are physically if not more.
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#731515 - 01/08/12 03:56 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: gvbest]
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Why is it being called accidental? Anybody that puts a gun to their own head and pulls the trigger is doing it on purpose.
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#731588 - 01/08/12 10:04 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
fish4brains Offline
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Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6210
Loc: zipper
no kidding
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#731711 - 01/09/12 12:46 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
The "SEAL angle" is no angle at all, to my mind...he's a dumbass who shot himself by being stupid, no matter what his training or education or age or whatever is...anyone who ever picks up a gun ever should know not to do that.

Fish on...

Todd
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#731721 - 01/09/12 01:10 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10878
Loc: McCleary, WA
Sad situation, regardless of who he was.
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#731790 - 01/09/12 05:45 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Dogfish]
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13515
No accident; he deliberately shot himself. A bit Darwinian tho, and possibly before he has a chance to reproduce.

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#731862 - 01/09/12 09:22 PM Re: Rule #1.... [Re: Salmo g.]
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Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 2190
Loc: Post Falls Idaho
A case of the little head doing the thinking and the big head ends up with the results. Actually, this pretty much fits a lot of accidental shootings. Drinking affects judgement; so lets breakout the gun and show off; then boom. It's an accidental shooting because he didn't intend to shoot himself, mistakinly believing he gun wasn't loaded otherwise it's a suicide attempt.

All kidding aside, a tragedy none the less. I hope he recovers.
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