I figured this would come out at some time.



Not taking a side, but Zimmerman's case just got a bit stronger.

Looks like a hole in the scalp here........

Wow, if that really is Zimmerman's head (and blood) I don't see how he can lose.

Looks like some reporter actually did some investigation on events leading up to the shooting. This is actually reporting the news, interviewing folks in the neighborhood, and adding real context to who this George guy is.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/0...martin#comments

Some interesting background information there.

Fish on...

Todd

Still a sad event for all involved, and I still think that both George and Trayvon made mistakes.

Beats having Marsupial genes.

RWWJ + Marsupial genes = Fox Mole.

Wounds to Zimmerman's head, if the photo is true, still don't validate his presumed "stand your ground" defense. Zimmerman pursued Martin after being directly told by the 911 dispatcher that "you don't need to do that." A person is not "standing his ground" when he pursues another, and the other, Martin in this case, may have been standing his ground in self defense when he realized he was being followed or pursued by Zimmerman. Zimmerman still has a long distance to cover to prove self defense with, or without, stand your ground. Had Zimmerman not followed (pursued) Martin, his legal defense would be sound. Of course, had Zimmerman not pursued, the killing would more likely than not have occurred. Murder 2 still seems like an appropriate charge that could maybe be plead to Man 1.

Sg

911 operators are not law enforcement and he had no duty or requirement to follow their directions.

"you dont need to do that" and " DO NOT FOLLOW" are 2 different things...

maybe Zimmerman has had things stolen from him, and was fed up with it?

this case has been screwed from the get... Zimmerman has lost his life as well...

either hes guilty, and gets life, and or death..

hes not guilty, riots start, people go after him, bascially anywhere he decides to go in the country, there will be someone that hates him...

how do you decide a jury? all white people? so that when he gets found innocent, then African Amercans go ballistic saying its racially motivated..

or all black people, so that when he gets found guilty, the KKK and other extremeists go ballistic saying it was racially motivated...

or half and half, so that it becomes a dead lock, and noone can agree, then the African American extremists go ballistic because justice was not served and demand a re trail...

or 1/3 black, 1/3 white, and 1/3 hispanic, so that if he gets found innocent, they will say it was because of the hispanics in there looking out for him, which would be racially motivated...

dudes screwed for LIFE....

DF,

That's true, but the information establishes Zimmerman as a pursuer. Being in pursuit of another does not fit with "stand your ground" or conventional arguments of self defense.

Sg

I've heard nothing that is definitive evidence of him being innocent or guilty...just a lot of stuff so far.

That's why you have a trial.

Fish on...

Todd

innocent or not, hes still lost... and best believe if he is found innocent, sh!t will hit the fan all across the country.... if you thought the King riots were bad, just wait... it has the potential to turn every metropolitian city in the entire US into LA... bad bad situation...

This will turn ugly as the DA seems to have over charged on the case. For murder 2 you need "a depraved mind" and have proof of malace. Tough to see that here with what has been put forward. Man1/2 maybe but this will start riots now even if he gets a lesser plea. Setting the bar to high for anyone to be happy. Hope we do not have another DA looking to be the next govern/congress person and end up lighting the inner cities across the country on fire.

Nobody is EVER found innocent.

EVER.

They either find you guilty, or not. Nobody has ever been found innocent in a court of law.

Maybe not in a court but when I was younger I found a few girls who were innocent.

I think they were just telling you that.

Fish on...

Todd

Don't you mean you found them delightful?

point taken Dan... and dead on as well...

Psssst. In case you didn't know, the entire Trayvon/Zimmerman show
is a media circus. The media set out to create a black/white hate
show and every one seems to be buying tickets. Even the Prosecutor
that created the indictment couldn't resist the potential 'get on the map' opportunity.
Two lives totally phucked up for the sake of a bit of hubris.
But the media makes out.