#763678 - 06/03/12 03:40 PM
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Dick Nipples
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Hank, your entire last post is full of that "free thinking" conservative thought that is parroted from the smallest town in rural Tennessee to Los Angeles to Fairbanks, Alaska...and let's just say that the odds of all conservatives in those places independently arriving at the same talking points is about as likely as Mitt Romney having one single conviction that hasn't changed at least twice depending on who he's talking to or what election he's currently trying to win.
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#763686 - 06/03/12 04:32 PM
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Dick Nipples
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The past "everyone gets a cut" have given the ultra-rich billions of dollars, and the rest of us a pittance.
If that money actually encouraged "investment in business", which is what they used to say to justify trickle down economics, or to get those "job creators" to create jobs, as they have re-branded the same ol'[Bleeeeep!] this time around, then I'd be willing to listen to what the Republicans have to say...unfortunately it's not that they are not talking about changes, it's even worse than that, they're talking about either continuing or going back to the already discredited bullschit that's failed before, for the past 31 years.
As with many things, the saddest part is that 99% of the right wingers who will vote for it are voting directly against their own well being.
The only non-ultra rich who benefit from those past policies, and those being proposed by the Republicans right now, are high end yacht builders and McMansion construction companies...for the other 99% of us it's just bleeding us and the country dry and putting it further and further into the pockets of the 1%.
Want to change the tax code so that it will actually provide benefits to the public and the economy?
Re-write the tax code so that it makes it economically incentivized to invest money in the business, to innovate, and to hire people, rather than as it is now, which incentivizes huge CEO pay and stockholder value.
Unfortunately you won't likely see people from either party seriously propose that, as people believe the crap about the "free market" and "job creators" too much to actually think about it.
George W. Bush proved, twice, the value in not being smarter than the electorate...don't try to explain actual economics or public policy that might help the country, you'll just be branded an "intellectual elite" by some fuckin fool on the other side, and it will get electoral traction.
Idiots like being told that they are right, and that everything is not only simple, but that it's just like they think...then those idiots will elect a pretend idiot who will milk the idiots for all their worth, along with everyone else, while telling them that it's rain that's running down their leg...
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#763694 - 06/03/12 05:12 PM
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Dick Nipples
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I could give a sh!t less about abortion rights, gay marriage or any other social issues that seem to be the only things important and discussed by the Dems.
I hope that's a joke. Research for a few minutes all the bills proposed in the Senate, and by House Republicans, that piled out of there right after the 2010 elections. Every Republican, as they should have, ran on economic issues...and then immediately set about sending out bill after bill on social issues. Dems talk about them? A bit, yes...after all, social justice is part of what America and Americans are supposed to be about. Republicans don't seem to mind talking about them...what they seem to mind is talking about expanding freedoms and rights, especially to undesirables like women, black people, brown people, and those who aren't heterosexuals. You and other Republicans should demand that your part stop putting up any bills or having any discussions about abortion rights, marriage equality, or anything else other than the economy...but you know it won't happen...the 75% of the Republican electorate doesn't know or care about the economy (beyond the simplistic view that it's all Obama's fault and that Paul Ryan can save the world)...but they do care about those damn colored folks, wymyns killin' babies, and the War on Christmas. Without bigots and fools voting for Republicans on social issues, the Republican economic "plans" would have been relegated to the dustbin decades ago, as they should have been, as they'd have never been elected in the first place. Fish on... Todd
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#763713 - 06/03/12 07:09 PM
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Dick Nipples
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You may not care...but your party does, so don't be listening to those talking heads telling you that it's Democrats who are doing it. Your party wouldn't even exist without stupid social issues getting all the rednecks and bigots to the polls to vote for them...and amongst red state voters, they are not outnumbered, not by a long length.
It's not the DNC putting Constitutional amendments to ban same sex marriage on the ballots in swing states, now is it?
The only thoughts most of them put into the economy is "Obama is a Kenyan Socialist, who hates 'Merica!"...they fuckin dwell on how gay their Democratic neighbors are, or might be, or whether or not that brown guy at Home Depot is an illegal stealing a job from a real 'Merican, or if those two dudes they saw at the restaurant want to ruin the sanctity of their good ol' heterosexshul marriage.
You're outnumbered in your own party...outnumbered by the aggressively ignorant and uneducated. Actual thought about the economy and foreign policy is way over most of their heads.
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#763714 - 06/03/12 07:11 PM
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Dick Nipples
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And...importance of the economy is, well, the most important thing.
Demand your party do something about it, and demand that what they come up with is not another iteration of failed trickle down economics.
As long as Republicans need social issues on the ballots to get enough voters to vote them in, and once in all they have to offer is the same schit that failed...hard...the last 30 years, then the Republican Party has no high road anywhere to walk.
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#763747 - 06/03/12 09:54 PM
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+2
i personally dont like the the fact we could have a president worth 200+ million dollars... might seem irrelevant to some, but to me, its red flags...
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#763750 - 06/03/12 10:06 PM
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Martha Stewart did, so why not?
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#763751 - 06/03/12 10:07 PM
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#763755 - 06/03/12 10:14 PM
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fvck him Hank... i didnt vote for him... hes a pussy that couldnt handle being in the Military, then protested what he was fighting...
i dont agree with that, regardless of what war it was...
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#763830 - 06/04/12 12:05 PM
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Dick Nipples
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Another excellent post full of...nothing.
Congratulations, Illy.
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#763831 - 06/04/12 12:07 PM
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fvck him Hank... i didnt vote for him... hes a pussy that couldnt handle being in the Military, then protested what he was fighting...
i dont agree with that, regardless of what war it was... Redhook, You are an even bigger idiot that I previously thought......... Really? Are you getting this info from your fellow workers at Goodwill?
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#763834 - 06/04/12 12:19 PM
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Repeat Spawner
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Good for Obama I like the strategy. All wars should be drone wars from now on.
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#763835 - 06/04/12 12:19 PM
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Dick Nipples
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The birthers are the new Swift boaters...same tools, different day.
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#763843 - 06/04/12 01:23 PM
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Three Time Spawner
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Smart decent people had misgivings about Kerry and what he had to say about the people he served with(not just swift boaters). He did not just attack the war effort and the govern which I would often agree but he said terrible things about the troops he served with. While some of that might even have been true he generalized as Todd often does and lost any and all moral high ground.
Point is not all people who disagreed with Kerry were "tools" and same goes for BO. Not everyone that thinks he has screwed us is racist, birther, redneck, or even RWWJ. But certainly anyone who thinks they know what votes are in everyone elses best interest is a LWWJ. Kinda goes with the big govern.....listen to me, I know best.
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#763851 - 06/04/12 01:54 PM
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Dick Nipples
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I didn't say anyone who disliked Kerry or Obama was a tool...I said anyone who believed the Swift Boaters or Birthers are tools.
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