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#782154 - 08/30/12 02:53 PM Yes...
Todd Offline
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...yes you did.

Bush tax cuts and two unfunded wars cost more than everything else combined amongst things contributing to the national debt...someone at the RNC has a sense of humor, or a momentary pang of honesty, when putting the clock and billboard together wink

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#782158 - 08/30/12 03:00 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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No.

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#782169 - 08/30/12 03:15 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Nice Hank. Very nice.


What was that saying about meet the new boss?
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#782207 - 08/30/12 05:28 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Seems some here still haven't realized we are down to one war now.
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#782340 - 08/31/12 12:16 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
wal1ter Offline
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Hell no Bush is not unfunding the wars he started. In fact, he's been on every media outlet he could find telling the American people all about the plan that's been in place for years for ending our involvement and for paying the expenses of his choices.

He's probably on the Yer Dreamin' channel right now explaining how it would be simple and cheap to finish what he started.

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#782354 - 08/31/12 12:31 AM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
No.

Fish on...

Todd


If he wants the credit for killing bin laden, he has to accept the bill for it too.

He extended the TAX RATES but calls them tax cuts for the rich. Only when you believe all the money belongs to government, could you say some that stupid.

If you were working in 2001 and 2003 you also got a tax cut.

Feel free to send it back.

5 trillion dollars in new debt. Never cut the deficit as he promised.

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#782449 - 08/31/12 03:44 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Obama followed the Bush timeline for the withdrawl too. thumbs


Also not true. You Reps sure like to lay down the BS. You wouldn't be writing speaches for Ryan on the side would you?
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#782468 - 08/31/12 07:25 PM Re: Yes... [Re: stlhead]
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This is a mind boggling thread.

Fallacy 1: "you extended the tax cuts, so they're yours now" Reality: It was you jackasses who insisted on maintaining these insane tax cuts for the rich. You wrecked our credit rating because you threatened to default on our debt you dimwits. How freakin' short is your memory.

Fallacy 2: "they're your wars now, and besides you followed our exit timetable". Reality: You opened up pandoras box, and like it or not, we (as a country, not a party) own that god-forsaken mess YOU and your war-mongering pals made.

Please, for the love of the COUNTRY, step outside the echo chamber -- and breathe the fresh air of reailty. Please.
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#782469 - 08/31/12 07:30 PM Re: Yes... [Re: IrishRogue]
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IR, they know they are fullofschit, they just can't help parroting the lies that they hear on FauxNews, or more to the point, every time Romney or Ryan open their mouths.

Just as the Romney campaign derided those pesky fact checkers earlier this week, the Republican Party has long-derided that pesky "reality-based" contingent of the USA.

Reality and facts are not friends of the Republican Party, which is why they have so many fools in their base.

Fish on...

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#782477 - 08/31/12 08:22 PM Re: Yes... [Re: IrishRogue]
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Originally Posted By: IrishRogue


Please, for the love of the COUNTRY, step outside the echo chamber -- and breathe the fresh air of reailty. Please.





I will if you will.
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#782478 - 08/31/12 08:23 PM Re: Yes... [Re: blackmouth]
Todd Offline
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If IR is noting the lack of reality that takes place in both Republican Party doctrine and the things they say, then I'd say he's breathing far more clear air than many here.


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#782484 - 08/31/12 08:35 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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Todd, just how is your air?
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#782491 - 08/31/12 09:03 PM Re: Yes... [Re: blackmouth]
Todd Offline
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Clear and unclouded by the Bullschit Storm that bounded out of Tampa Bay all week.

Yours?

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#782506 - 08/31/12 09:46 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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Only time will tell what ill wind will blow from Charlotte.

However, I must admit that I found it amazing for the undoubtedly liberal, IR, from Seattle, to on the PP dark side board, talk about stepping outside the "echo chamber".

Kettle black?
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#782529 - 08/31/12 10:58 PM Re: Yes... [Re: blackmouth]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Everything IR said was the truth.

Only a Republican ballwasher would say otherwise.
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#782535 - 08/31/12 11:29 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Dan S.]
blackmouth Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Everything IR said was the truth.

Only a Republican ballwasher would say otherwise.



Now that was a truly simple thought.

From a Democrat ballwasher?
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#782541 - 08/31/12 11:46 PM Re: Yes... [Re: blackmouth]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Yeah, I'm here defending Democrats all the time.

Or I'm not.............ever.

Thanks for playing.
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#782543 - 08/31/12 11:54 PM Re: Yes... [Re: blackmouth]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Question.......

Will the next raise in the debt limit be yours?

or will you still be blaming it on others?

That question will be answered shortly, but I'd like to hear it from the O Boy Oberto, boys.
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#782545 - 08/31/12 11:57 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ParaLeaks]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Why would it be mine?

I voted for Ron Paul.



Thank YOU for playing.
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#782547 - 09/01/12 12:03 AM Re: Yes... [Re: Dan S.]
ParaLeaks Offline
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get out of the way......let it fly over your head....it wasn't yours.....dammit, duck!
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#782548 - 09/01/12 12:08 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
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It's as much mine as it is yours, I guess.

More, even, because you'll just die before it's paid off.

smile
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#782552 - 09/01/12 12:18 AM Re: Yes... [Re: Dan S.]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Ack!

Unfortunately, so will you.

Take the kids fishin' smile
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#782555 - 09/01/12 12:22 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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I like IR's post's, don't always agree with them.
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#782590 - 09/01/12 01:46 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1118094...ASIN=1118094514

While this book would be a good and useful read for many here, I bet they'd rather just deny that it even exists...and then run on it.

Fish on...

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#782622 - 09/01/12 07:15 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Sol Duc]
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Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
I like IR's post's, don't always agree with them.


Whas IRs' father a John?
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#782651 - 09/01/12 10:48 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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#782653 - 09/01/12 11:10 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Anyone that claims high ground on the wars is a fuk tard of epic proportions if they use oil. Both wars were to stop radical Islam from toppling primarily the Saudis and disrupting our oil supply. Obama not pulling the troops day one and escalating attacks on radical players on foreign soil proves it. If you oppose the wars stop using oil if you don't you are a hypocrite. Secondly we were a major player in Libya and now Syria. These proxy wars will only increase as china and India's economies grow. If the Saudis fall we fall as long as oil drives our economy.
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#782654 - 09/01/12 11:30 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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I think that your story could be turned upside down.

(+=-), Now You sense.

God bless you. Devil may care.
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#782655 - 09/01/12 11:34 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Us and Them]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Joad
Anyone that claims high ground on the wars is a fuk tard of epic proportions if they use oil. Both wars were to stop radical Islam from toppling primarily the Saudis and disrupting our oil supply. Obama not pulling the troops day one and escalating attacks on radical players on foreign soil proves it. If you oppose the wars stop using oil if you don't you are a hypocrite. Secondly we were a major player in Libya and now Syria. These proxy wars will only increase as china and India's economies grow. If the Saudis fall we fall as long as oil drives our economy.


Drill baby drill.
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#782676 - 09/02/12 04:23 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Don't forget Africa. That is going to be the next hotspot...

PS. Hank there are still Troops in Iraq. They pulled out "Combat" troops.


Edited by RB3 (09/02/12 04:23 AM)

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#782731 - 09/02/12 08:19 PM Re: Yes... [Re: RB3]
wal1ter Offline
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"In dozens of interviews this summer across Iraq, many people said that their lives were safer and more prosperous under Hussein and that the U.S. invasion was not worth the price both countries have paid. "

That is the response to the ____ lives and ____ dollars Bush caused to be lost in Iraq. Thank goodness he was careful with lives and dollars, otherwise that whole invasion thing may not have worked out so well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/midd...d8b0_story.html

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#782736 - 09/02/12 08:40 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
wal1ter Offline
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Yes, Bush did say he had a timeline for someone else to follow in cleaning up his massive Iraq (fill in the expletive).

As it turns out, cleaning up after Bush left office is more expensive and time consuming than Bush said it would be when he was in office.

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#782790 - 09/03/12 01:24 AM Re: Yes... [Re: wal1ter]
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Just think walty GW started that war to protect the Saudis , give you cheap gas and a better economy. Did you use that cheap gas well or did you just waste it driving around chasing fish with missing find. Hope you don't feel too guilty that hundreds of thousands of people have died and had their lives turned upside . Obama has kept up that tradition and expanded it . Keep wasting gas war mongers.
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#782800 - 09/03/12 02:44 AM Re: Yes... [Re: Us and Them]
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Really Tom Joad again, didn't we get rid of this guy once?

Fishy
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#782847 - 09/03/12 01:30 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Somethingsmellsf]
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Joad/King is the same jackass he was before, just in a different set of dirty tighty whities.

Under his management style you're not allowed to complain about anything, ever.

If you drive a car, you must accept wars to steal oil from Iraq.

If you turn on a light, you must accept dams with no fish passage, coal burning electricity plants with no scrubbers, and all the problems caused by most.

Listening to anything he says is a total waste of time.

Fish on...

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#782876 - 09/03/12 03:26 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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Smellypussy and Tood two guys that hate the other side of the coin. Obama is every bit as bad as Bush was. I will give Hillary some credit , she is not stupid enough to wade into Syria with guns a blazing. I think the Momon will.
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#782918 - 09/03/12 06:51 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Us and Them]
wal1ter Offline
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Posts: 81
Originally Posted By: Tom Joad
Just think walty GW started that war to protect the Saudis , give you cheap gas and a better economy. Did you use that cheap gas well or did you just waste it driving around chasing fish with missing find. Hope you don't feel too guilty that hundreds of thousands of people have died and had their lives turned upside . Obama has kept up that tradition and expanded it . Keep wasting gas war mongers.


Wow.
"...chasing fish with missing find"?
No, find fish with chasing I missing did.

"Hope you don't feel too guilty ..."
I feel no guilt whatsoever for decisions made with no input whatsoever from me.

"Obama has kept up that tradition and expanded it"
No, in every measurable way, Obama has done the opposite of expanding Bush's venture in Iraq.

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#783188 - 09/04/12 11:07 PM Re: Yes... [Re: wal1ter]
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If our current President, Mr. Barack Obama has an understanding of any one thing, that thing might be how to live a life while lacking the possession of the understanding of, humility.
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#783194 - 09/04/12 11:37 PM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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There's no such thing as a humble "Leader of the Free World", and I doubt that anyone in the USA would want there to be.

Watched FLOTUS hit it out of the park tonight...I bet her speech alone will give the Obama campaign a bigger bump than the entire Republican Convention gave Romney (which was practically "zero").

Fish on...

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#783207 - 09/05/12 12:23 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro

"Pride is concerned with who is right. Humility is concerned with what is right."

— Ezra Taft Benson




Excuse me for reducing your response to the point that I cared to address.

Butt.

in consideration to your Taft Benson quote; I, Blackmouth, will respond by saying, "Pride is a protuberance, that will to be leveled, Humility is what any man who is able to reason possesses".

I do not believe that our current President posesses a bit of humility, and yet he is very proud.
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#783218 - 09/05/12 01:01 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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Consider, that you do not appear to have a clue.
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#783234 - 09/05/12 02:26 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
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You don't know me from Adam, yet you call me a dumbshit, and imply that I might not vote for a someone based solely on the color that persons skin.

Imagine that, another silly thought from Seattle.

If I wake up in the morn, I hope to find a blue sky, and coffee.

If you wake up, I hope you even better.
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#783339 - 09/05/12 06:18 PM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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Ah the epitome of fools is judging fools again. It does get tiresome
tho that it is all Bush's fault and congress had no say in the matter.
Some folks ain't on the 3rd planet from Sol.


Edited by Illyrian (09/05/12 06:19 PM)
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#783445 - 09/06/12 12:11 AM Re: Yes... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Folger's is not very good coffee.

Fish on...

Todd
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#783517 - 09/06/12 11:37 AM Re: Yes... [Re: Todd]
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T. E. Lawrence was a humble man, or was he?

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#783986 - 09/08/12 01:47 AM Re: Yes... [Re: Illyrian]
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I am sure that at times he was, and at other times he became slightly, full of himself.

He was a human.
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