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#786087 - 09/16/12 01:24 AM US Consulate in Benghazi. Really?
Driftin' Offline
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So the deadly 91112 attack allegedly happened at a US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya as the result of a movie? And 50 people have been identified as those involved? OK.

Rueters Article

What if there isn't a US Consulate in Benghazi, only Tripoli, according to the US Department of State list of such US Consulates, Embassies and Missions?

US Department of State List

And the movie wasn't even real, just a dubbed version of another film about "Master George?"

Huff Po

This whole *story* is getting rather strange.....

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#786134 - 09/16/12 02:45 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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So the western-backed intervention in Libya, complete with armed foreign freedom fighters, didn't result in that dog biting its master in the ass, it was a dubbed movie that was the cause?

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#786165 - 09/16/12 07:53 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Spontaneous attack or credible information of an imminent attack. It keeps Changing....

According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.

Independent

Reminds me of scuba diving on the Great Barrier Reef a few decades ago. There was a Russian diver on the dive charter. The Aussies, Canucks and the 'Mericans on board laughed at him regarding Tass news reporting being nothing but government propaganda. He coolly responded that the difference between him and those ridiculing him was that at least he knew he was watching government-sponsored propaganda....



Priceless.


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#786244 - 09/17/12 02:54 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Driftin']
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Quote:
at least he knew he was watching government-sponsored propaganda....




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#786246 - 09/17/12 08:27 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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they would absolutely put their loyalty to the Prophet over the consulate. The deaths are all nothing compared to insulting the Prophet."
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#786269 - 09/17/12 12:20 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Next President should make our national religion Islam and totallyy mindfuck these yayhoos

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#786274 - 09/17/12 12:50 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Its dependant on girth. Nostrils and ear canals are available for the less endowed

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#786281 - 09/17/12 01:10 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Illyrian Offline
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eliminate the taxpayers dollars going to Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan and others two faced entities. Let em eat cake and dine on their hate not
our dollars.

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#786282 - 09/17/12 01:10 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Haha word just came out that he sleeps naked and eats peanut butter. Not in that order.

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#786342 - 09/17/12 05:39 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Safe house was attacked also.
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#786414 - 09/17/12 09:58 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Since the US embassy to Libya is located in Tripoli, why were all the US diplomatic corps at a "consultate" in Benghazi? Or is Benghazi a suburb of Tripoli? I didn't try to check on that.

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#786434 - 09/17/12 11:44 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
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Benghazi was the capital of the folks who brought down Mallowmar. (NTC)

I don't believe that the new .gov of Libya would do this. A small group of wingnuts, yes.

We don't need to arm another bunch of future wingnuts. Yes, we need an embassy, apparently armed to the teeth, to suuport our interests in the area, but the USSR is dead, and communism isn't the threat it once was. Time for us and GB to sit one of these things out and let France or Germany take the lead for once. This is closer to their back yard than ours.
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#786446 - 09/18/12 12:15 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Driftin']
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The govt of Labia would totally do this, it's a shiny object to distract from the real issues. Our govt would do the same . Al Queda is the pass go and collect 200 billion for free card that both sides play to get the sheep to nod their heads in support.
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#786449 - 09/18/12 12:16 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Dogfish]
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Getting any country besides the US & GB to take a lead role in a turbulant Middle East solution would be a real stretch. I just do not see it happening any time soon. China, Russia, and the rest, I get the feeling they simply laugh at our attempts to bring peace and democracy to a region of the world that for centuries has never known such a thing. Does not matter how much muny we throw at the problem...These folks simply have their collective mad on I'm not sure there is anything the civilized world can do to chage that...

Just my .02
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#786452 - 09/18/12 12:23 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Black Bart]
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Originally Posted By: Black Bart
Getting any country besides the US & GB to take a lead role in a turbulant Middle East solution would be a real stretch. I just do not see it happening any time soon. China, Russia, and the rest, I get the feeling they simply laugh at our attempts to bring peace and democracy to a region of the world that for centuries has never known such a thing. Does not matter how much muny we throw at the problem...These folks simply have their collective mad on I'm not sure there is anything the civilized world can do to chage that...

Just my .02



Word.



Our strategic "caring" in an effort to promote democracy is our weakness and arguably ultimately a possible demise. We believe we can save them from themselves.

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#786455 - 09/18/12 12:25 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Black Bart]
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China and Russia crush these type of issues in their countries justas Clausewitz says to. If you don't crush their hopes and spirits an insurgency will never be relinquished. I haven't read On War in several years so pardon my paraphrasing. You guys remember that Muslim uprising a few years ago in Russia? Heard anything since?? Putin annihilated that whole village I am sure. China had a little uprising as well. That got nipped in the butt real quick. The difference? Selective adherance to the Geneva Convention and a population that dare not question its gubments actions.. And that folks, is why we will never crush these insurgencies.

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#786465 - 09/18/12 12:43 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Black Bart]
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Originally Posted By: Black Bart
Getting any country besides the US & GB to take a lead role in a turbulant Middle East solution would be a real stretch. I just do not see it happening any time soon. China, Russia, and the rest, I get the feeling they simply laugh at our attempts to bring peace and democracy to a region of the world that for centuries has never known such a thing. Does not matter how much muny we throw at the problem...These folks simply have their collective mad on I'm not sure there is anything the civilized world can do to chage that...

Just my .02


Don't disagree with you at all. Just hate to see us send more of our guys into yet another meat grinder.
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#786498 - 09/18/12 02:11 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Dogfish]
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Andy...I totally agree. Our troops risk their lives and I don't like it.

I for one would like to see a day soon when our guys are back home with their families and we are an energy independent North America, free from these goat eating folks who hate us so much.
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#786506 - 09/18/12 03:39 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Black Bart]
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Anyone else recall Obama saying that he would diplomatically "talk" out any issues with these people?

C'mon, you remember.

Mr. PeaceMaker President, how's that working for you?
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#787241 - 09/20/12 11:29 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Black Bart]
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.....and employed.

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#787250 - 09/20/12 12:18 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
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This morning I read conflicting reports about whether the attack was pre-planned or spontaneous. How the heck do you have a spontaneous attack with with machine guns and RPGs?

The FBI has arrived in Benghazi, and they're gonna' figure it out with the local police and military. Really? Arrived a week and two days after the fact to inspect an "undisturbed" crime scene no doubt. Things aren't adding up.

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#787471 - 09/20/12 10:25 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Somebody either "cooked up" or is "cooking up" a story.......I wonder which it is.
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#787624 - 09/21/12 07:22 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Reminds me of that movie with Samuel L. Jackson, "Yeah I said it, Smoke them muh fuhhhherz!"

Salmo, remember to keep it in context of the region. In that area of the World, it is not unusual for families or people to have caches of weapons in their basements or attics. They don't have the awesome gun control laws we do smile

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#787625 - 09/21/12 07:23 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
What a shame.






Pakistani man dies after inhaling fumes from burning American flags at anti-Islam film rally

More than 10,000 protesters reportedly took to the streets in Lahore
Demonstrators chanted anti-U.S. slogans and set light to U.S. flag outside American Consulate.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz26pjacUAi


Choked on the fumes of Democracy and freedom. Amurrr-Cuh

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#787833 - 09/23/12 03:01 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Things aren't adding up.


Post NATO liberation Gaddafi loyalists under the Green Resistance makes more sense than the other circulating crap. Maybe the present focus on Syria and Iran distracts from what is gaining traction in the rear view mirror whilst motoring down the highway to Armageddon....

Green Resistance Article

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#789941 - 10/03/12 11:56 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Driftin']
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With apologies to this gentleman

A tragedy becomes a comedy

All the World's a Stage....

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#790517 - 10/06/12 01:45 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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http://ace.mu.nu/archives/333411.php

October 03, 2012

Administration Knew "Within Hours" That Benghazi Attack Was Likely a Terrorist Attack Connected to al Qaeda

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#791191 - 10/10/12 01:44 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Fast and Furious]
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Reuters: State never responded to two requests for more security in Benghazi
posted at 10:01 am on October 10, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Former State Department security officer Eric Nordstrom will testify today to the House Oversight Committee about the security failures that led to the terrorist attack on our consulate in Benghazi and the assassination of our Ambassador to Libya, J. Christopher Stevens. Reuters got an advance look at his prepared testimony last night, and reports that not only did Nordstrom repeatedly request more security for the diplomatic mission, the State Department didn’t even bother to respond to his last two requests:


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/10/re...ty-in-benghazi/

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#794292 - 10/23/12 11:27 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Hank, this is just a little piece of what has been a very disorganized and disengaged administration that has been more concerned with fundraising and television shows. 4 people died and the administration has lied.

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#794300 - 10/23/12 11:58 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: DBAppraiser]
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DBA......you're right.
I'm curious why I haven't seen a news station interview of what the family of J. Christopher Stevens thinks of this administration.
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#794310 - 10/24/12 12:46 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: DBAppraiser]
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If you want to play "woulda, coulda, shoulda...", lets look at another scenario. What if an additional 6-12 security personnel would have been assigned to protect the Americans at the consulate and half of those were on duty at the time of the attack. The headlines coming from Benghazi could very well have read, "Ten Americans Killed in Libya". Do we even know today, how big a security force we should have sent to prevent four, or more, American deaths?

It's not my job to interpret the conflicting reports that came out of Washington in the days after the tragedy in Benghazi. There will be investigations. Hopefully, they will be as thorough as the investigation into Pat Tillman's death and the lies, deception, and stonewalling by the Bush administration that followed.

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#794311 - 10/24/12 12:55 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: CedarR]
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Originally Posted By: CedarR
If you want to play "woulda, coulda, shoulda...", lets look at another scenario. What if an additional 6-12 security personnel would have been assigned to protect the Americans at the consulate and half of those were on duty at the time of the attack. The headlines coming from Benghazi could very well have read, "Ten Americans Killed in Libya". Do we even know today, how big a security force we should have sent to prevent four, or more, American deaths?

It's not my job to interpret the conflicting reports that came out of Washington in the days after the tragedy in Benghazi. There will be investigations. Hopefully, they will be as thorough as the investigation into Pat Tillman's death and the lies, deception, and stonewalling by the Bush administration that followed.



I don't want to play coulda, woulda, shoulda with this, too many games have been played with this matter already.

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#794316 - 10/24/12 01:14 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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If you mean the Tillman tragedy and the spin that followed it, you damn right I was "dizzy". So dizzy I couldn't find my way through Krakauer's book, Where Men Win Glory without a flow chart showing the characters, connivers, and cover-ups.

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#794327 - 10/24/12 02:01 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Just takes a memory, Hank. I know most Republicans have flushed those memories long ago. Don't blame them, really.

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#794342 - 10/24/12 08:24 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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So the spin continues to be that we only need for Obama to be a little better than Bush.
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#794346 - 10/24/12 08:45 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
So the spin continues to be that we only need for Obama to be a little better than Bush.


He would have to start two unfunded wars, send our young people to die while fighting with the people that did not bomb the World Trade centers and give his buddies some of the largest tax cuts in history while exhausting the tax surplus of the previous president. So he would really have to step DOWN to reach the gutter that Bush lived in!


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#794351 - 10/24/12 09:06 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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#794395 - 10/24/12 12:59 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Keep up the spin..I'm looking for a card with an 11 on it.


Shouldn't be too hard to find that card; they gave one to everybody that attended the 2004 Republican Special Olympics in New York City. It replaced the "honorable mention" and "participant" ribbons they usually hand out. It did make for a special moment when G. W. took the podium, and all those in attendance held up their "11" cards. You could hardly tell half of the cards were upside down.

No, Obama doesn't have to be slightly better than George Bush. Romney is slightly better than Bush, and Obama is slightly better than him. There you go, "Mission Accomplished!"


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#794475 - 10/24/12 07:52 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Thanks for killin the thread Hank. These guys can't handle the light of day being shined on their chosen one.

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#794568 - 10/25/12 08:26 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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How could it take a month to investigate something that lasted six hours?
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#794597 - 10/25/12 11:34 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
How could it take a month to investigate something that lasted six hours?


That is the most retarded thing in this entire thread...and there are a lot of retarded things in this thread.

Fish on...

Todd
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#794600 - 10/25/12 11:37 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Todd]
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Indeed odd.

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#794621 - 10/25/12 12:59 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Except that I haven't done that...in spite of you keeping on saying it, over and over again, and again.

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#794623 - 10/25/12 01:01 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
How could it take a month to investigate something that lasted six hours?


That is the most retarded thing in this entire thread...and there are a lot of retarded things in this thread.

Fish on...

Todd


I would think that a lawyer might have a more detailed response.
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#794627 - 10/25/12 01:20 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
How could it take a month to investigate something that lasted six hours?


Assign Ken Starr to the investigation; mention bodily fluids and a moist cigar may be involved...

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#794640 - 10/25/12 03:13 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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It supposedly took Lee Harvey Oswald just a few seconds to assassinate JFK... and we're still 'investigating' it almost 50 years later.

Some murder investigations take years to complete before an indictment is handed down.

So the idea that taking a month to thoroughly investigate the Benghazi incident is too much time... is just plain ridiculous.
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#794645 - 10/25/12 03:21 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: 4Salt]
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Most time there are not twenty different video cameras watching it from every angle live as it happened. That could and should speed it up but as with all things govern related, no matter R or D, we will likely never get the true story.


Edited by docspud (10/25/12 03:22 PM)
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#794647 - 10/25/12 03:27 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: 4Salt]
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Except that they have already had a month to investigate it, and in the case of JFK and other murders, there weren't drones overhead filming those in real time so the "people in the know" could watch and make sound decisions on the fly. Sorry 4salt, I know Obama and Co are your guys but I'm not buying it. They screwed this one up and then tried to spin it and it didn't spin well.

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#794656 - 10/25/12 04:17 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: DBAppraiser]
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I never said I was 'buying' what Obama & Co. were selling DB... I was just making the point that taking a month to thoroughly investigate an incident that took 6 hours to transpire... is NOT too much time, no matter how many drones were flyin' around. wink

Obama isn't really "my guy" either... but I do think he's a much better choice than Romney at this time.
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#794691 - 10/25/12 07:24 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: 4Salt]
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Well at least they haven't sealed for 75 years the evidence and reports coming from the Benghazi incident,,, yet. The CYA game is alive and
well.

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#794711 - 10/25/12 09:02 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: 4Salt]
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Originally Posted By: 4Salt
It supposedly took Lee Harvey Oswald just a few seconds to assassinate JFK... and we're still 'investigating' it almost 50 years later.

Some murder investigations take years to complete before an indictment is handed down.

So the idea that taking a month to thoroughly investigate the Benghazi incident is too much time... is just plain ridiculous.


That is such a load of crap. Incident? thats being kind. This was a terrorist attack on American soil, even if it was rented. It was not one attack, there were at least three attacks. You can investigate how the men died, all you want. They would be alive, if not for the attack and fire on the compound. I don't need an autopsy.

They are dead.
It was preventable
No tape was involved
Administration lied about the tape, as they watched the attack live.
They continue to spin this.
The new emails are just another piece of evidence.

More important than any of this? If they get re-elected, they will not only do it again. They will do worse, because they do not fear the media. By the end of term, they will tell people the gloves don't fit, so you must acquit.

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#794728 - 10/25/12 10:19 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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I'm convinced that it is not Obama that is smart.
It is the Nation that is full of .......

Sad that "We the people" have lowered the bar so far.
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#794761 - 10/26/12 01:15 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ParaLeaks]
Todd Offline
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#794768 - 10/26/12 01:40 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
RowVsWade Offline
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Chuck----Regardless of your perceived notions about the poster....what, about his post that you commented on, did you find ridiculuous?

Did U.S. citizens die on "our soil"?

Was it preventable?

Was the response by this administration appropriate?

Or are you just riding the easy fence like Dogfish?...trying to make everyone like you while saying nothing?
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#794773 - 10/26/12 01:55 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
RowVsWade Offline
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It's only 'politicizing' when questioning your guy.....

Everything else is Bushs' fault....or Cheney or Rove or Reagan or...........
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#794780 - 10/26/12 02:24 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: RowVsWade]
Fast and Furious Offline
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We are all tired and very disappointed in the subject matter of these posts. Hopefully they will all remember, that Barack Obama, ran when he did, because he was told by Tom Daschle, that his future record, would be used against him. The only real race, this idiot had as a candidate, he lost. That was to a former Black Panther. All the other candidates were either thrown off the ballot or destroyed by character assasination, as in the case of a Mr. Ryan who was formerly married to Jerry Ryan, the borg character. Their marriage divorce records were made public and used by the Obama team against him. No relation to Paul Ryan.

Im happy to shine the light on this ahole, because he is the lowest form of life. The infant born alive act in illinois, shows that. He voted present on an important bill that sealed rape victim cases (everyone else voted for passaged) and he stood against at least one homeowner who defended his family with a fire arm.
The media protect him, they never vetted him, like other candidates. He is truly the face of affirmative action. If we did not vote for this complete unknown, we were all racists.

But I am the idiot. I saw thru Obama 5 years ago. Its you guys who voted for him, out of a knee jerk response to a very long list of culprits and one fall guy. George Bush. So, every republican is graded against Bush. Now we can grade every democrat against the socialist and the other loser Jimmy Carter. Clinton went way left and lost his ass in 94. So he began with the era of big govt is over, yet he praises it now. He still is a pathological liar, just like Obama. I have a hard time finding an honest lawyer in the democrat party. That is, one with a license.

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#794783 - 10/26/12 02:42 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
I don't have a "guy"

Tell you this though - Reagan is turning over in his grave over this "new" Republican party. Reagan was a humanitarian & he was smart. Wish he was here...he would find a way to end the corporate news media money machine that is hell bent on dividing America, spinning propaganda & making it impossible for our elected officials to do their job in the name of We The People. Yeah, a Reagan comes along once in a great while...He would be disgusted.


Reagan had it worse. There was no cable and no conservative talk radio, with another point of view. It was all concentrated in the three major networks. I didnt bother to post it here, but a recent video surfaced and obama supporter were asked what new programs they watched. One said Brett Baier. All the others were split between Rachel Maddow, cnn, and John Stewart. Really, John Stewart, news anchor? These supporters have been PUNKED on a number of occasions, about the debate, on the day before, running mates, such as sarah palin as Obamas VP and positions attributed to the other candidate, that were actually held by Obama. Yet these lemmings just stammer when they are confronted with the truth. Politicians used the war and the draft as an excuse to drop the voting age to 18. Clearly, they made a huge mistake. The information age surrounds us and they have no interest, beyond video games and rock the vote.

If you dont want the media tearing people apart, stop hiring liberal journalists that are rewarded by liberal managers for having a liberal bias. FYI the Bin Laden movie, being showns a few days before Nov 6, will put Obama front and center. The network its being shown on, is owned by none other than Newscorp. Rupert Murdoch. I guess the movie will be full of lies.

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#794785 - 10/26/12 02:55 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Generic statement without evidence.

ok, you are a hooker. A prostitute. a LOT LIZARD.

how do I know? you have the equipment.


You are in no position to call others stupid or anything else, given your own troubles and the fact, I am not the one watching John Stewart, that would be the obama college students.


Edited by Fast and Furious (10/26/12 02:58 AM)

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#794786 - 10/26/12 03:09 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Fast and Furious]
CedarR Offline
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Nice endorsement Obama got from Colin Powell today. He still calls himself a Republican, but in his opinion, Barack Obama should be reelected. I always respected the General, even when he was stuck in the Bush administration; I respect him even more now. Why do you suppose his views on our Chief Executive's efforts and accomplishments are so disparate from yours? Why do you suppose Powell didn't jump off the Obama bandwagon after the Benghazi incident? Here's his endorsement, in case you missed it during a moment of blind rage...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57539893/colin-powell-endorses-barack-obama-for-president/

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#794789 - 10/26/12 03:24 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Do you ever talk in complete sentences? If you want to insult people, or make allegations, the least you could do is explain yourself.

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#794790 - 10/26/12 03:32 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
Originally Posted By: CedarR
Nice endorsement Obama got from Colin Powell today. He still calls himself a Republican, but in his opinion, Barack Obama should be reelected. I always respected the General, even when he was stuck in the Bush administration; I respect him even more now. Why do you suppose his views on our Chief Executive's efforts and accomplishments are so disparate from yours? Why do you suppose Powell didn't jump off the Obama bandwagon after the Benghazi incident? Here's his endorsement, in case you missed it during a moment of blind rage...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57539893/colin-powell-endorses-barack-obama-for-president/


Powell is great on foreign affairs and national security. He has helped and advised Obama. We need Obama now, he is IMO the only hope of no more wars for America.


good luck with that.

And Libya, Iran, Muslim Brotherhood, Syria. Another former Obama official in foreign affairs, already said, we are back to 3-4 years ago. BTW, Powell should have told Obama, the Marines use bayonets today. He should have told him, to get the hell out of Benghazi when everyone else left the country. I wonder why Powell thinks he is a republican. Not that I care. he is old news.

As a general rule, I think both parties do a piss poor job with foreign countries, considering. They live in the stone age. We put them on the govt dole and they continually vote against us in the UN. Now the UN is sending observers to keep track of fraud.
Gee thanks. We should lock them up as spies.


Edited by Fast and Furious (10/26/12 03:38 AM)

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#794793 - 10/26/12 03:41 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Not sorry at all. Just a piece of [Bleeeeep!]. Hiding.

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#794802 - 10/26/12 08:27 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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So we have one person putting what he considers to be facts in his posts and then you have about 4 persons disputing those posts. But they don't dispute the "facts", they dispute the character of the poster. Wouldn't it be more intelligent to prove the "facts" wrong.
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#794873 - 10/26/12 01:24 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Illyrian Offline
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C'mon JC, you don't really expect some of those idiots to behave
in an adult manner, do You? Standard juvenile behaviour is called for.
Since they know nil about the issues they attack the messenger with
the usual gutter language.
Lunch hour at the middle school.


Edited by Illyrian (10/27/12 12:55 PM)
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#794879 - 10/26/12 01:47 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
docspud Offline
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So much for" no man left behind". Seems "cover ones behind" is the slogan lived by on this attack.
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#794897 - 10/26/12 02:55 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: docspud]
JohnQ Offline
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rofl and it doesn't look like Chillery is falling on her sword any more rofl -- http://www.examiner.com/article/clinton-asked-for-more-security-benghazi-obama-said-no

Geeeesh the Libtard Crickets from Pungent Sound got awfully quiet real quick elite


Edited by JohnQ (10/26/12 02:55 PM)
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#794938 - 10/26/12 07:15 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: JohnQ]
CedarR Offline
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In the original version of Peter and the Wolf, Peter shouts, "WOLF! WOLF!" over and over. The villagers look once, or twice, and then ignore him. The story ends on a happy note when the little pr!ck gets devoured by a wolf.

In the modern version, Peter repeatedly posts "Look dimwits, we're surrounded by azzhole wolves. They're everywhere, but your too stupid to see them!" The villagers look, but finding no menace, some of them respond by telling Peter, "Fuk off!" or "Fuk the wolf you rode in on". Most of the villagers ignore him.

Undeterred, Peter continues to post his warning around the clock. One day, in a frenzy of keyboarding, his chair falls over, he gets tangled in the cords of his computer and dies of auto-erotic asphyxiation. Only a few of the villagers go to Peter's funeral, and that's only because they have funeral leave to burn.

Disclaimer: Peter and the Wolf is a work of fiction. Any similarity between the main character of the story and David Carradine is coincidental and unintentional.

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#794954 - 10/26/12 08:11 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: CedarR]
JohnQ Offline
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Then Old Asswipe Biden opens his Pie Hole and inserts foot yet again, . . .

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#794963 - 10/26/12 09:08 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: JohnQ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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No idea here as to original intent......but it sounds like a compliment to me.

easily to take something like that out of context and fk with it, know what I mean?
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#794970 - 10/26/12 09:38 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Hank...you know I couldn't say anything disrepectful in such a circumstance. I was thinking it could have been said in awe.
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#795014 - 10/27/12 12:47 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Originally Posted By: blue water pro
First the father of the ambassador and then the mother and then the parents of the SEALS asked the same thing. Quit politicizing the death of their sons.


The father of the slain seal I am sure would like to ask Biden to shut the f**k up..

I'm sure they would be much more appreciative if the president and administration hadn't fukked the dog and their children were still alive.

Here I'll save you the response.. Bush sucked and thats why the obummer is a [Bleeeeep!]!
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#795067 - 10/27/12 11:33 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
ParaLeaks Offline
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I stand corrected.
Miserable display of ineptitude and crassness.

kinda says it all........"One assumes charitably that the vice president is acknowledging in his own inept and blundering way the remarkable courage of a man called upon to die for his country on some worthless sod halfway across the planet."

edit: I must add that Obama's complete lack of emotion where his fighting men are concerned pisses me off. Why does no one acknowledge his blatant self interest?


Edited by Slab Happy (10/27/12 11:37 AM)
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#795076 - 10/27/12 11:56 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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If the timeline of the attack that is being revealed, not by the administration, is fact this administration is not only inept but is disengenious.
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#795115 - 10/27/12 02:24 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Driftin' Offline
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#795117 - 10/27/12 02:35 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Originally Posted By: blue water pro
First the father of the ambassador and then the mother and then the parents of the SEALS asked the same thing. Quit politicizing the death of their sons.


So you don't object to the Obama administration's allowing the death of their sons, only the politicizing afterward?

I suspected as much from you.


Not to defend the administration's handling of this issue, it's a bit of a stretch to say Obama "allowed" the death of any Americans in Libya.

Disingenuous yes; all administrations are disingenuous, unfortunately.

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#795517 - 10/29/12 08:48 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Jerry Garcia Offline



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Why were security assets removed in the months leading up to the attack, even though the Ambassador and the head of the security assets were telling higher ups that the situation on the ground was becoming more dangerous each day?
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#795522 - 10/29/12 09:05 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Sounds like somebody wanted them killed.
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#795548 - 10/29/12 11:18 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Driftin' Offline
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Because people died, this tragic farce has the potential to be more than Watergate. The paradox is that those with bloody hands are also the investigators.....

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#795562 - 10/29/12 11:57 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
Hell I voted early. For Mitt to boot.
What amazes me is that everyone knows that Obama is a product of the Chicago political machine. One of the most corrupt in the nation and
yet the voter made him a president instead of giving him several white feathers.

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#796367 - 10/31/12 06:27 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
Sky-Guy Offline
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“Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden,” the meme states. “When the SEALs called Obama, THEY GOT DENIED.”

http://rt.com/usa/news/facebook-obama-sos-meme-699/
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#796788 - 11/02/12 01:23 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
CedarR Offline
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Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1431
Loc: Olympia, WA
Gas was $3.46 at Lacey Fred Meyer today. Probably less if you've got a card. That's a 50 cent drop in a fairly short time. Should we blame the President? How outraged should we be?

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#796792 - 11/02/12 01:30 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: CedarR]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13511
Yeah, it's Obama's fault that the oil companies are making $0.50 less a gallon. Dammmmm Obamer.

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#796809 - 11/02/12 03:02 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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There you go. See, the liars and coverup is all ok now. A new timeline has been released.

yippee.

They still left soldiers to die in the field. Guess thats ok with Obama supporters like you. I really don't know how anyone could vote for a piece of crap like that. Hillary is no better. If she had an OUNCE of integrity, she would have resigned in disgrace.

The timeline left out a couple things. The local libyan police, that were suppose to be protecting the Ambassador, was taking photos of the compound and it was reported by the staff. Nothing was done.

How long before the Obama supporters own up to the fact the location had been attacked in April and June. That the UK and the red cross had both left and then instead of pulling out. Obama or clinton pulled the 15 man security force. We should never have stayed in the country. Stupid ass, foreign policy had to be seen as a success, at any cost.


Edited by Fast and Furious (11/02/12 03:14 AM)

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#796813 - 11/02/12 04:04 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Time is running out. Fox has flushed enough information out, that other networks will eventually talk about it. You point the finger at Fox, but it was Obama that spoke generically about terror attacks then jetted off to a fund raiser, then put Rice on the lieing tour and away we go. Check your own reality. We were lied to and they left americans defenseless to die, and they were in the whitehouse when it happened. All your timeline means daytime in DC. They had no excuses and plenty of warnings and requests, which they turned down. They had jets one hour away. The attacks lasted about seven hours.

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#796920 - 11/02/12 03:16 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Fast and Furious]
Salmo g. Offline
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Looks like the CIA report messes up F&F's preconceived notions of what went down and when.

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#796931 - 11/02/12 03:37 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Illyrian Offline
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Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
Gee I wonder who vetted that report?

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#796948 - 11/02/12 04:15 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
JTD Offline
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It is a sad day when valuable people are squandered and there is nothing humorous in those regards...






but I love a good conspiracy and this one is shaping up nicely. I hope the responsibility falls squarely on the shoulders of the guilty.
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#797008 - 11/02/12 07:48 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: JTD]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Hank finally got this thing right.

It is also the same reason you don't hear Romney talking about this anymore. He recently got access to the classified info and knows it isn't a "winning issue" against Obama.

It seems like the yapping America-haters got ahead of themselves on this one.

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#797035 - 11/02/12 09:29 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
Salmo g. Offline
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Illy, fret not; all your Obama-hatin' goons will have their chance to go through it with the proverbial fine tooth comb.

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#797047 - 11/02/12 10:18 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
ParaLeaks Offline
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The "stand down" order now supposedly never happened.
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#797109 - 11/03/12 02:41 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Fox was just as evenhanded as the "fair and balanced" here...Illy, FnF, and Hank.

Fish on...

Todd
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#797125 - 11/03/12 09:50 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Are they as even handed as CBS? The story is 3 days old, but it's still pertinent. They have their "own" sources, yet the story is similar to Faux.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-5754...nsulate-attack/


Here's a dandy part for the Administration Brainwashed......

Quote:
National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News "From the moment the President was briefed on the Benghazi attack, the response effort was handled by the most senior national security officials in governments. Members of the CSG were of course involved in these meetings and discussions to support their bosses."


Now just WHO do you think they are talking about??? Duh.


Edited by Slab Happy (11/03/12 09:51 AM)
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#797145 - 11/03/12 12:07 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
gvbest Offline
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Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
Right because the CIA or Administration always tells the truth. I believe the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Its not just Fox that has been reporting a similar story. Those of you that believe what the CIA/Administration say 100% are just as big of idiots as those that believe FOX/CBS (any news source for that matter) 100%.
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#797147 - 11/03/12 12:16 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Illyrian Offline
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Loc: Spokane, wa
Salmo, I am not an Obamma hater. I do wish he would go back to
work in Chicago organizing communities. He and Emmanuel make
a winsome pair of bed fellows.
I believe, in spite of the First Black President bit, that he is bad
for the USA. He isn't uppity enough for foreign relations and his
economic policies make W look like a genius.

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#797157 - 11/03/12 12:40 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Fast and Furious Offline
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Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Illy, fret not; all your Obama-hatin' goons will have their chance to go through it with the proverbial fine tooth comb.


You need a hug?

Those who do not want the answers, are part of the problem. What is so hard to understand? After at least two attacks in April and June, then the security force is removed and the Ambassador is not pulled out, like UK did, coming up to an anniversary of 9-11. Then spend two weeks or more blaming it on a video?
They should have been pulled out in JUNE!

Who needs a fine tooth comb. A push broom is more than adequate.

If the president had a case to make, how come the only other network beginning to speak is CBS.

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#797438 - 11/04/12 12:01 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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I nominate you for the brainwashing poster child.
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#797508 - 11/04/12 08:14 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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#797519 - 11/04/12 10:09 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ParaLeaks]
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So Fox is entertainment TV because they offer both sides of the story? The big 3 networks have yet to offer any side.
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#797543 - 11/04/12 01:13 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Jerry Garcia]
DBAppraiser Offline
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The left and BWP can bitch about Fox all they want, but the fact remains that this administration trotted out Amb Rice and knowingly lied to the American people about who was behind this attack and what the nature of this attack was. Fact is, the Admin panicked because they were dealing with falling poll numbers at that time and someone or some people decided that spinning this tragedy and blaming a You Tube video was a smart play.

If Watergate had been investigated as loosely as today's media has investigated this event, Nixon would have completed his term at a minimum.

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#797558 - 11/04/12 02:49 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Hank,

I couldn't tell if the following opinion was part of Max Boot's commentary, but it just doesn't make sense:

". . . "Why would our president not come to the defense of our consulate under attack? This is an attack on American soil. This was a 9/11 attack by an al-Qaeda branch in Libya. Therein lies the answer.

Obama does not believe in using the military to defend our national security, which he sees as aggressive, Republican, and cowboy. This was Obama's 9/11, not Bush's. He did not see the attack on our embassy as a jihadi attack on American soil. He saw a group of aggrieved Muslim citizens, with good reason to be angry -- the spontaneous mob enraged by an offensive video. He would follow a Democrat policy of promoting peace, not war, in which avoiding civilian casualties is the paramount goal.

The other answer is directly political. It would be damaging for Obama's already weak record to admit that there was a 9/11 attack by al-Qaeda in one of the supposed successes of the Arab Spring. Responding militarily would have made the weaknesses of Obama's foreign policy all too evident. An American military response would have undercut one of Obama's main campaign slogans: "GM is alive and Osama is dead.". . ."

It doesn't make sense to me because I don't see how Obama or anyone in the administration could have seen any possible benefit in not aiding the US diplomatic mission. And directly denying aid and directly giving a "stand down" order can only go from bad to worse. Since there is no potential political upside, I can't help but question the criticisms as anything other than more anti-Obama political attacks. The alternative is that Obama, Clinton, and other chief administration members are dumber than a box of rocks, which is only believable to a few right wing kook aid swillers.

The flip side is that there would be nothing but political gain to the adiminstration sending in reinforcements with guns ablazing, ala killing bin Laden, whether the effort was successful or unsuccessful. Consequently I'm not gonna' jump on the rush to judgement train.

Sg

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#797641 - 11/04/12 11:11 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Registered: 11/20/08
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Hank, I'll bet you wouldn't give a rats ass about all of this if it happened the same way but under a republican president. In that case, the president would be a brilliant war hawk, who never reveals his cards, and you would say let him play. It would be the same as it was with GWB, every republican just gave him the benefit of the doubt again and again and again and again......And they still do.

Every little blunder under Obama is turned into a big deal by his enemies. That is about it. I think some people expect more from Obama than any president in their lives. Why?
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#797650 - 11/05/12 12:23 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
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Whoa!! Just saw THIS on TV tonight. Reran it for the wife to see. Found it on UTube. Check it out.
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#797674 - 11/05/12 09:29 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: ]
Illyrian Offline
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"Every little blunder under Bush is turned into a big deal by his enemies. That is about it. I think some people expected more from Bush than any president in their lives. Why?"
Read that somewhere. Fixed the errors.


Edited by Illyrian (11/05/12 09:30 AM)

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#797694 - 11/05/12 11:37 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
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These guys must hate Obama. A bunch of right wing kook aid swillers.


CBS Releases Previously Withheld ’60 Minutes’ Interview Segment in Which Obama Refuses to Call Benghazi a Terrorist Attack
Posted on November 5, 2012 at 10:24am by Tiffany Gabbay


Do you recall when, during the second presidential debate, Mitt Romney called President Obama out on the fact that he did not refer to the deadly attack on our U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi that claimed four American lives an “act of terror” in a speech given from the White House Rose Garden the day following the attack? Moderator Candy Crowley quickly swooped in to aid Obama and “fact-check” Romney, declaring that the president did indeed use the term “act of terror” in the Rose Garden that fateful day as he referred to Benghazi, only to later backpedal and cede that the GOP contender was actually “right in the main.” Now, a never before-seen portion of a “60 Minutes” interview conducted September 12, the day following the siege, has been released, revealing that the president refused to call Benghazi a terrorist attack.

For reference, during his September 12 speech at the White House Rose Garden, Obama did not call the attack in Benghazi an “act of terror” or a “terrorist attack” at all. He used the phrase “acts of terror” directly following remarks about the original September 11 attack on the World Trade Center in which he said that no “acts of terror” (in general) would be tolerated by America.

Many of the president’s inconsistencies and contradictory remarks regarding the carnage in Benghazi that claimed Ambassador Christopher Stevens, his aid Sean Smith and Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Dohery has since been buried by presidential politics and a mainstream media that appears eager to give the president what essentially amounts to a free pass. That may have changed, however, at least in some small way after this latest inconvenient truth has surfaced — and it’s one the president will likely wish had been relegated to CBS News’ cutting room floor.

The previously withheld segment of a September 12 “60 Minutes” interview with Obama conducted by CBS correspondent Steve Croft reveals that the president refused to call the deadly siege in Benghazi, which reports now indicate was carried out by al Qaeda and pro al Qaeda militants, an act of terrorism.

The original transcript has been made available and a video clip of the previously unaired interview portion is featured below. It was posted by CBS rather inconspicuously on November 4 and clearly it was not given any prominence on the CBS site as it has only garnred 12 comments. Thus far, the only other mainstream news outlet to pick up on the phantom interview segment was Fox News in a report by anchor Bret Baier. Watch this telling, and perhaps damning clip of the president as he skirts the issue and verbiage of terrorism all together.

Perhaps the next logical question would be, why did CBS release this new footage at all?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cbs-rele...rrorist-attack/

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#797792 - 11/05/12 04:34 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Fast and Furious]
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From the other thread:

". . . it appears to be Fox News’ narrative that is coming undone instead."

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#797793 - 11/05/12 04:35 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Posts: 4450
Loc: B'ham
Is it time to harass fishermen at boat ramps yet, Leadeater?

You are one sad piece of [Bleeeeep!].

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#797824 - 11/05/12 07:32 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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LeadEater's house is at SnivelFactor Orange.

Not sure what that means exactly, but it's a damn sight higher snivel factor than usual, and his usual snivel factor is damn near off the map.

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#797964 - 11/06/12 04:01 AM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
Is it time to harass fishermen at boat ramps yet, Leadeater?

You are one sad piece of [Bleeeeep!].


Given the size of the room for the commission meetings, its not worth my time, to go out and get people to attend. My fault for not having been to a meeting before, I put out the flyers.

That was 2010. While you think its a big joke, any organization can collapse if new members are not continuously recruited. Someone recruited the guy that gave Save our salmon a half million dollars, for the initiative signatures. It wasnt me. But every time you mock me, someone else is keeping his head down and not sticking his neck out. That means, people with money, big money may fall thru the cracks. Now that may not be all that important to you, but the fact is, the organization needs a lot of money to pay the execs and the lobbyist, who is full time. Legal work isnt cheap either. Now perhaps you think that these retired guys will just keep digging money out of their wallets, when your buddy obama has to lower interest rates to 3% to keep business going. Well seniors cant keep up with inflation at 1% CD rates. So where does new money come from? You? Its not coming from me, cause Im not going back out to any ramp on your behalf or anyone elses. I dont give a fk.

Keep that in mind, because the organization that I recruit for is in the process of fixing the CR issue in TWO states at the same time, with almost no extra money spent of its own. Had 81 failed, we would be back to square one. Had 81 passed, we would still have to get WA to go along. The oregon governor is running ads against two other initiatives, cause he does not like them. They only pay attention to us, because we vote and now we have a pack. We would not be in this position without the members who were routinely ridiculed and the free labor and the money spent to go to banquets to pay for the personel we need to keep fishing going. You can thank cca and a few chosen legislators for carrying the water on a 60 million dollar hatchery investment. Im sure PSA is in there in the mix and they have to raise money just like cca does.

FYI I dont think much of you either. We're even.

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#799140 - 11/10/12 12:53 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Fast and Furious]
Illyrian Offline
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9/11/12 I wonder how many think that date is a coincidence?

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#799175 - 11/10/12 03:00 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
Salmo g. Offline
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Does that really matter?

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#799219 - 11/10/12 06:41 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
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It does if you care about the attack and its' casualties. Obviously
the Chain of command didn't get the connection. Just a riot over a
silly video. BS

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#799222 - 11/10/12 06:47 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Illyrian]
Salmo g. Offline
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It could be just as likely on any anniversary date of 9/11. Who's saying - today - that is was just the riot about the silly video, besides nobody? Once you lock your mind around something, no matter how egregious the error, you can't seem to let go. Why?

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#799333 - 11/11/12 12:16 PM Re: US Consulate in Benghazi. Really? [Re: Salmo g.]
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Perhaps the error is elsewhere.

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