#854250 - 08/27/13 03:35 PM
Re: Syria
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Dick Nipples
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The real "Moral Obscenity" is the US Administration trying to get the U.S. involved in another war in order to line the pockets of arms manufacturers and politicians.
It's worked for the US of A for two hundred years...why stop now? Fish on... Todd
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#854254 - 08/27/13 03:39 PM
Re: Syria
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Slick Willie tried the cruise missile diplomacy and accomplished nothing.
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#854255 - 08/27/13 03:41 PM
Re: Syria
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The Tide changed
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What do you think will happen when we hit the hornets nest real hard? It appears to me there is an ulterior motive to test Syria's Allie's resolve.
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#854256 - 08/27/13 03:43 PM
Re: Syria
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_Nate_
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im curious as to what Israel may do while we go after Syria?
smash Iran?
2 birds?
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#854257 - 08/27/13 03:45 PM
Re: Syria
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April Fool
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Exactly. This will likely become a massive foreign policy disaster for the U.S.
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#854264 - 08/27/13 04:33 PM
Re: Syria
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 10/20/10
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SG, You give them too much credit for being smart enough to hatch a plan like that and carry it out. It is even worse we are puppets of the Saudis etc who can switch from oil being priced in dollars. Our military is being outsourced to protect their interest which also protects our economic interest. China and Russia benefit if the switch happens, it levels the playing field. The whole world knows they cannot defeat us on the battle field so you are only left trying to undermine the keystone of our power, oil priced in dollars.
The puzzle pieces from FT.
Iran is backing Assad. Gulf states are against Assad!
Assad is against Muslim Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood and Obama are against General Sisi.
But Gulf states are pro Sisi! Which means they are against Muslim Brotherhood!
Iran is pro Hamas, but Hamas is backing Muslim Brotherhood!
Obama is backing Muslim Brotherhood, yet Hamas is against the US!
Gulf states are pro US. But Turkey is with Gulf states against Assad; yet Turkey is pro Muslim Brotherhood against General Sisi. And General Sisi is being backed by the Gulf states!
Welcome to the Middle East and have a nice day.
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#854267 - 08/27/13 05:16 PM
Re: Syria
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Hippie
Registered: 01/31/02
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The real "Moral Obscenity" is the US Administration trying to get the U.S. involved in another war in order to line the pockets of arms manufacturers and politicians.
There has to be a need for weapons and military machinery in order to produce them and make a boatload of money off the American Taxpayers. How do you use up the inventory? Get into a war. A war will use up the supplies for our own troops, creating a need for more. Worse, the politicians also give away billions and billions of American Taxpayer dollars as "aid" to all these medieval countries. Those countries then buy weapons from American manufacturers as well. The manufacturers then donate to the campaigns of those politicians who support the war. It is the worlds largest money laundering scheme wherein the money is essentially stolen from the American Taxpayers, channeled to these cat litter sand box countries, who then spend it on weapons. Talk about moral obscenity....Kerry & Obama can shove their obscenities up Their A$$ Amen, brother.
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#854270 - 08/27/13 05:43 PM
Re: Syria
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River Nutrients
Registered: 07/11/04
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Al-Qaeda backed rebels or Iran/Russia backed Assad.
hmmmmmmm???
Sounds like something America can dump a trillion dollars into!
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#854272 - 08/27/13 06:01 PM
Re: Syria
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Al-Qaeda backed rebels or Iran/Russia backed Assad.
hmmmmmmm???
Sounds like something America can dump a trillion dollars into!
The good thing is that those much fabled "Job Creators" will make billions, and then turn around and use it to hire all the unemployed folks, right? I mean, they have enough yachts and condos after the last two wars, don't they? Yeah...right. When the US goes to war it's for one thing, and one thing only...and it ain't Democracy. Fish on... Todd
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#854273 - 08/27/13 06:03 PM
Re: Syria
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River Nutrients
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Todd- If we aint got that memo yet we never will
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#854274 - 08/27/13 06:06 PM
Re: Syria
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the US is backing the rebels as well...
so if AQ is backing the rebels, and the US is backing the rebels...
well, what does that say?
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#854277 - 08/27/13 06:25 PM
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River Nutrients
Registered: 07/11/04
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That we’ve got a new ally in the middle east
“"Make no mistake, President Obama believes there must be accountability for those who would use the world's most heinous weapons against the world's most vulnerable people." SecState John Kerry
And from the Washington Free Beacon, “Two Syrian al Qaeda-affiliated rebel groups this week called for terror attacks against Syrian civilians in retaliation for the mass killings by nerve gas near Damascus, according to U.S. officials.”
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#854281 - 08/27/13 06:44 PM
Re: Syria
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Terror attacks against Syrian civilians...because Syrian civilians were killed by chemical weapons used by the Syrian Government?
Totally.
Fish on...
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#854293 - 08/27/13 08:09 PM
Re: Syria
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YBD
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There is always more than one reason to enter a war.
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#854319 - 08/27/13 11:44 PM
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Dick Nipples
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There is always more than one reason to enter a war. There's three...money, money, and money. Fish on... Todd
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#854334 - 08/28/13 01:39 AM
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Dick Nipples
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Oil is money.
Fish on...
Todd
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#854363 - 08/28/13 02:07 PM
Re: Syria
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The Tide changed
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The thing I cannot wrap my head around is, The US and UK seemingly dont care about How many people have died, but how they are killed. They say 100K people have perished since hostilities began, and that 3-400 people were gassed, and that is now reason for action, because those 3-400 died..what..inhumanely? YHGTBFKM
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#854364 - 08/28/13 02:25 PM
Re: Syria
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Dick Nipples
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That's the point where it goes from "intervening in a civil war", which we "don't do"...to "saving poor people from WMD's and the Inhumanity"...which is a convenient excuse to stick our noses in there.
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#854373 - 08/28/13 03:05 PM
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Dick Nipples
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Yeah, cuz we here in the US of A really require incontrovertible...and true...evidence before going in and spending a zillion dollars on defense contractor* toys and blowing them all up.
Fish on...
Todd
* "defense contractor" is a euphimism for "campaign donor".
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