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#872309 - 11/28/13 12:48 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
RB3 Offline
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Registered: 08/24/10
Posts: 1335
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Originally Posted By: RB3
My Union gave me a free 15lb Turkey. My soul is still in tact.


Free??


Yes sir. I'm no longer a member now though. Moving on to greener pastures. This was probably the best run union that I have been a part of. Not sure if it matters that it was for a Federal Agency but they did well by all members without a lot of the BS dramas.

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#872521 - 11/30/13 01:36 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: steeliedrew]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
Posts: 1475
Loc: Spokane, wa
I used to belong to that Machinists union. Bunch of dimmies from my
experience. We were working on the 747. SSt and a challenge to sell 737s
much modified to the military. There were several wildcat strikes if you would call them that. Some jerk would get a hair crossways and pull a grievance. Mostly BS.
KACC dumped the Ravenswood WVA plant just because of Steelworkers antics.
Figure out some way for the company to make a dime and you will make a dime. Figuratively speaking. Some never figure out that when you screw
the company you are screwing yourself.

Hope 777x finds a way to stay here in Washington. For Boeing, the Unions
and the state economy's sake.


Edited by Illyrian (11/30/13 01:36 PM)

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#872562 - 11/30/13 05:17 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Illyrian]
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Was down at Mukilteo this morning having a walk and I pass a couple of large 4 wheel drive diesel pickups pulled close together and can hear the two guys complaining about what the hell does boeing think they are pulling yada yada yada. 2 guys in $40,000 pickups complaining about their lousy no good employer. Talk about blind.
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#872663 - 12/01/13 12:16 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Yuup.
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#872670 - 12/01/13 01:09 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Salman Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Was down at Mukilteo this morning having a walk and I pass a couple of large 4 wheel drive diesel pickups pulled close together and can hear the two guys complaining about what the hell does boeing think they are pulling yada yada yada. 2 guys in $40,000 pickups complaining about their lousy no good employer. Talk about blind.


It's okay for Boeing to take home millions of dollars in profits because of those guys and not even bother giving them a contract they want?
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#872673 - 12/01/13 01:20 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Salman]
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Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
Originally Posted By: Salman
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Was down at Mukilteo this morning having a walk and I pass a couple of large 4 wheel drive diesel pickups pulled close together and can hear the two guys complaining about what the hell does boeing think they are pulling yada yada yada. 2 guys in $40,000 pickups complaining about their lousy no good employer. Talk about blind.


It's okay for Boeing to take home millions of dollars in profits because of those guys and not even bother giving them a contract they want?





The profits of a company don't belong to the LABORERS.
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#872675 - 12/01/13 01:28 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Salman]
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Originally Posted By: Salman
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Was down at Mukilteo this morning having a walk and I pass a couple of large 4 wheel drive diesel pickups pulled close together and can hear the two guys complaining about what the hell does boeing think they are pulling yada yada yada. 2 guys in $40,000 pickups complaining about their lousy no good employer. Talk about blind.


It's okay for Boeing to take home millions of dollars in profits because of those guys and not even bother giving them a contract they want?



This is who Boeing answers to

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=ba+Major+Holders
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#872676 - 12/01/13 01:32 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Salman
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Was down at Mukilteo this morning having a walk and I pass a couple of large 4 wheel drive diesel pickups pulled close together and can hear the two guys complaining about what the hell does boeing think they are pulling yada yada yada. 2 guys in $40,000 pickups complaining about their lousy no good employer. Talk about blind.


It's okay for Boeing to take home millions of dollars in profits because of those guys and not even bother giving them a contract they want?

Yes

Something that's conveniently forgotten is no profits = no jobs.. wink


Something also forgotten is: no spending money in the pockets of the middle class = no need for Boeing aircraft to fly

People buying airline tickets and shipping freight create jobs, not Boeing CAS.
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#872678 - 12/01/13 01:39 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: JTD]
Salman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/12
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Originally Posted By: JTD
Originally Posted By: Salman
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Was down at Mukilteo this morning having a walk and I pass a couple of large 4 wheel drive diesel pickups pulled close together and can hear the two guys complaining about what the hell does boeing think they are pulling yada yada yada. 2 guys in $40,000 pickups complaining about their lousy no good employer. Talk about blind.


It's okay for Boeing to take home millions of dollars in profits because of those guys and not even bother giving them a contract they want?





The profits of a company don't belong to the LABORERS.



The company has to pay them something or they won't work.


Edited by Salman (12/01/13 01:40 PM)
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#872681 - 12/01/13 01:44 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
People without money are going to go by train or fly an Airbus?

What the fu.ck are you even saying, X-ray?

PS - Never mind - I should have never even started a conversation with a fuckin idiot like you.


Edited by Dan S. (12/01/13 01:45 PM)
Edit Reason: to tell Hank to fu.ck off
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#872690 - 12/01/13 02:24 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Salman]
JTD Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3007
Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA
Originally Posted By: Salman




The company has to pay them something or they won't work.





Really?

Did you just come up with that tidbit of genius by yourself?



rolleyes
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#872696 - 12/01/13 02:45 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: JTD]
Salman Offline
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What do you think when Boeing doesn't want to agree to the contract the workers want? They don't work.
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#872714 - 12/01/13 04:35 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Salman]
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Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 1078
Loc: Silverdale, WA
You do realize that Boeing doesn't care if you purchase airline tickets. That is the airline's concern, and they will reduce price to fill planes. Boeing sells a large percentage of their planes to foreign airlines, so they will be just fine.
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#872715 - 12/01/13 04:36 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Salman]
gvbest Offline
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Registered: 06/30/04
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Loc: Silverdale, WA
Originally Posted By: Salman
What do you think when Boeing doesn't want to agree to the contract the workers want? They don't work.


Soon that won't matter, when they move to another state and those workers that wouldn't agree to work will see how the unemployed survive.
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#872717 - 12/01/13 04:46 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: gvbest]
JTD Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 3007
Loc: Browns Point,Wa. USA






If that happens there will be a few extra $40,000 trucks on Craigslist.



But no one will have the last laugh... There won't be one.
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#872842 - 12/02/13 02:51 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: JTD]
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Registered: 09/27/08
Posts: 321
Loc: SWWA
"That is our CEO. If he were to retire today he would collect over $260,000 per month from his pension!!! Yet they want to freeze our pensions and make it so it takes over 20 years for all new hires to max out on the pay scale!!!?"

If you cry about what another coworker in your company makes then you don't have the stones to better yourself. Also, you are biting the hand that feeds you. Read about the Hostess union...
Unions were once needed for worker safety but are the major reason outsourcing has been so widely used by big corporations, remember that profit is the bottom line and if you interfere or cut into it, the workers will always suffer...
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#872911 - 12/02/13 08:49 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Misguided]
Big_Daddy
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Originally Posted By: Misguided
........If you cry about what another coworker in your company makes then you don't have the stones to better yourself. Also, you are biting the hand that feeds you. Read about the Hostess union...
Unions were once needed for worker safety but are the major reason outsourcing has been so widely used by big corporations, remember that profit is the bottom line and if you interfere or cut into it, the workers will always suffer...


Misguided in for the win...

Spot on commentary there.

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#872912 - 12/02/13 08:52 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Misguided]
Salman Offline
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Registered: 03/07/12
Posts: 781
Originally Posted By: Misguided
"That is our CEO. If he were to retire today he would collect over $260,000 per month from his pension!!! Yet they want to freeze our pensions and make it so it takes over 20 years for all new hires to max out on the pay scale!!!?"

If you cry about what another coworker in your company makes then you don't have the stones to better yourself. Also, you are biting the hand that feeds you. Read about the Hostess union...
Unions were once needed for worker safety but are the major reason outsourcing has been so widely used by big corporations, remember that profit is the bottom line and if you interfere or cut into it, the workers will always suffer...


Profits are the bottom line and that is why big corporations outsource. Just because you buy cheaper labor doesn't make it better.
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#873139 - 12/03/13 10:31 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: ]
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Haha and what do you think happened to the scabs?
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#873142 - 12/03/13 10:40 PM Re: Boeing contract.... [Re: Salman]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: Salman
Haha and what do you think happened to the scabs?



Upper management

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