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#885039 - 02/11/14 09:38 PM Border Security
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
I’m just back from five weeks hunting near the Arizona/Mexico border. What I saw there was a real eye-opener. The amount of traffic across the border is amazing, as is the amount of $$$ we are spending to stop it. Border Patrol cars, ATVs, horseback patrols and foot patrols were everywhere. We camped on a remote road with almost zero traffic, except for a Border Patrol cars cruising by about every fifteen minutes.

I ran into a group of four Border Patrol agent in bulletproof gear armed with ARs more than a mile from the nearest road.

There are signs of human traffic everywhere. Abandoned clothing and backpacks are common – water bottles, both empty and full, food wrappers and tons of tracks show how many are crossing this very rough and brutal country. Almost every day someone in our group encountered illegals.

In addition to huge fences, we have drones blimps and spotters on many high ridge tops. Big new roads near the border built solely for patrolling the border this in addition to the border checkpoints on every highway near the border.

My hunting buddy found a bale with about 50 lbs of marijuana in it. He got the border patrol to show them. They weren’t all that impressed. Apparently many tons a year makes it across.

I honestly don't know what we can do. The traffic is significant, but so is the amount we spend to stop it. Just for fun I Goggled to see how many Border Patrol officers we have. It’s in excess. 20,000.





Edited by Dave Vedder (02/11/14 10:07 PM)
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#885042 - 02/11/14 09:45 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Dave Vedder]
Salman Offline
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I don't care, what if all those people just started hiking up here and fishing/hunting? What would happen then? Would some new hatcheries open up thanks to the DREAM ACT?
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#885045 - 02/11/14 09:48 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Salman]
Salman Offline
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It'll probably save money in the long run don't worry.
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#885055 - 02/11/14 10:32 PM Re: Border Security [Re: ]
Salman Offline
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Hell no, they need to stay where they are and create their own government or at least participate in the one they have. Why the hell should America be the whore, why can't these other countries be just as great and give us a hand for once?
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#885056 - 02/11/14 10:38 PM Re: Border Security [Re: ]
Dave Vedder Offline
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Hank,

I was not proposing anything. Just pointing out its a big problem and that we are spending a lot of money to fix it. I see no easy solution. We can't just let them flood in and we can't stop them from trying to get in.


I don't doubt that 250,000 were apprehended. The small portion of desert I was in had very obvious signs of many illegals coming across. I wonder how many make it? I think the ones not part of drug gangs are very unsophisticated and ill equipped for the rough country, hot days and surprisingly cold nights.

The one I saw had only a thin coat and no backpack for food or water. He was more than 60 miles from Tuscon over VERY rough country. He had one hell of a hard hike ahead of him.
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#885057 - 02/11/14 11:05 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Dave Vedder]
Equinox Offline
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Registered: 01/05/10
Posts: 417
Loc: The "Rock"
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#885072 - 02/11/14 11:47 PM Re: Border Security [Re: ]
Brewer Offline
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
1900 miles of tightly packed land mines and heat sensitive fully automatic gun torrents would be a huge improvement.
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#885073 - 02/11/14 11:55 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Brewer]
Salman Offline
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Lol
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#885090 - 02/12/14 01:38 AM Re: Border Security [Re: Salman]
Frankster Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/08/14
Posts: 22
Loc: C&P Headquarters
I say we ship people like brewer, and any of his kin, to mexico in trade for illegals. Most of the illegal Mexicans I know are far better people than most of the Americans that I know.

BTW this reply was CnPd!

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#885091 - 02/12/14 01:49 AM Re: Border Security [Re: Salman]
Frankster Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/08/14
Posts: 22
Loc: C&P Headquarters
Originally Posted By: Salman
Lol



Will trade. One dumbfuck, lazy, entitled American (you know who you are) for one hard working Mexican.

They actually earned their presence here unlike some cocksucker that just happend to pop out of his mommas stinky gash in Merica.

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#885092 - 02/12/14 01:54 AM Re: Border Security [Re: Frankster]
Frankster Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/08/14
Posts: 22
Loc: C&P Headquarters
I bet Brewers elementary school would be a hell of a lot cleaner if a Mexican were cleaning it instead of him.

Rick the Dick (Brewer the Lewser) would be better off sitting in one of the class rooms, learning basic spelling and grammar, than he is cleaning said classroom.

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#885100 - 02/12/14 08:29 AM Re: Border Security [Re: Frankster]
Jerry Garcia Offline



Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
Sounds like Frankster needs to find a better class of friends.
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#885116 - 02/12/14 11:27 AM Re: Border Security [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Brewer Offline
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
Originally Posted By: Jerry Garcia
Sounds like Frankster needs to find a better class of friends.


and drink a full bottle of this till he pulls his (KK/BU) Libtard head out of his @ss!
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#885124 - 02/12/14 12:32 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Brewer]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13468
Interesting post Dave. I was down in El Paso on the way to Big Bend Nat'l. Park last March. First time ever in New Mexico and Texas, and I was shocked by the magnitude of our para-military Border Patrol presence. Kinda' unnerving to be driving on the interstate 50 miles from the border and have to pull through an Orwellian check station and allege you're an American citizen and actually have a right to be there. Uniforms, automatic weapons, canines, the whole 9 yards. Felt really creepy. I thought it has gotten bad around the Canadian border in recent years, with BP cars making up a high percentage of the traffic, but it's nothing like the southern border. A very strange feeling, that's for sure.

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#885126 - 02/12/14 12:39 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Salmo g.]
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Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Dave to Border Patrol Agent

"Officer, let me show you where the 50lb... err, 49 pound bail of MJ is, it's right over here...."

grin
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#885128 - 02/12/14 12:51 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Sky-Guy]
Rocket Red Offline
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Registered: 02/14/06
Posts: 2533
Loc: Elma
I have a friend who is a Border patrol agent out of Rio Rico in Arizona.

It sounds like about the worst job I could imagine. He says it is like playing Army against people who aren't playing. The amount of bureaucratic red-tape, rules, and agendas make the agents feel like they have the bad hand all the time. Which causes most of them to act like dicks.

Confiscating 2T of marijuana gets a mention in the weekly brief.
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#885131 - 02/12/14 12:59 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Rocket Red]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13468
With respect to the drug trade, the U.S. kinda' gets what it deserves for having stupid drug laws in the first place and then trying to wage an impossible war on drugs all while ignoring the root cause. Maybe Dogfish's line - play stupid games, win stupid prizes - goes here.

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#885145 - 02/12/14 01:49 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Dave Vedder]
CedarR Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 08/04/99
Posts: 1431
Loc: Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
I’m just back from five weeks hunting near the Arizona/Mexico border. What I saw there was a real eye-opener. The amount of traffic across the border is amazing, as is the amount of $$$ we are spending to stop it. Border Patrol cars, ATVs, horseback patrols and foot patrols were everywhere. We camped on a remote road with almost zero traffic, except for a Border Patrol cars cruising by about every fifteen minutes.

I ran into a group of four Border Patrol agent in bulletproof gear armed with ARs more than a mile from the nearest road.

There are signs of human traffic everywhere. Abandoned clothing and backpacks are common – water bottles, both empty and full, food wrappers and tons of tracks show how many are crossing this very rough and brutal country. Almost every day someone in our group encountered illegals.

In addition to huge fences, we have drones blimps and spotters on many high ridge tops. Big new roads near the border built solely for patrolling the border this in addition to the border checkpoints on every highway near the border.


Clearly, it's "no country for old men"; which begs the question...

It's also no place for old cars, old dogs, old women, and beer that's past its pull date.

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#885157 - 02/12/14 02:31 PM Re: Border Security [Re: CedarR]
Dave Vedder Offline
Reverend Tarpones

Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 8379
Loc: West Duvall
More than once my buddy who's is almost 70 mentioned that it's no country for old men. It really is rough country. Several times a friend with pointing dogs said, "My dog is on point 200 yards up that ridge." To which I would reply, "Have a nice hike."
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#885168 - 02/12/14 03:10 PM Re: Border Security [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Frankster Offline
Fry

Registered: 02/08/14
Posts: 22
Loc: C&P Headquarters
Originally Posted By: Fat Ass Pill Junky
Sounds like Frankster needs to find a better class of friends.




Will trade one fat ass pill head for one illegal Mexican. However, I don't think Mexico will be willing to make the trade.

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