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#897083 - 06/09/14 05:41 PM wonder what did it
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this is why i have the notion that we dont know as much as we think we know about marine life.. and it actually makes that argument even more valid...



http://www.examiner.com/article/great-wh...-swallows-shark
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#897085 - 06/09/14 05:55 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Well, the Puget sound mystery beast, of course. Or a Megladon.
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#897086 - 06/09/14 06:15 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Sky-Guy]
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funny you would say that, thats exactly what came to mind when i thought about it (Megalodon)... maybe its not really extinct like they think.. i suppose it could be a 25 foot Great White, but those are extremely rare, if ever seen.. although, a few years ago off the coast of Australia a 10 footer was bitten in half nearly by what they say was a 20+ foot "monster shark"... noone saw that shark either, just the one that had chunks out of it...

ill see if i can find the article..
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#897090 - 06/09/14 06:45 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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#897091 - 06/09/14 06:46 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Orca.

It bit the shark exactly where the tag was inserted; and swallowed the tag. After 8 days, the tag came out the other end of the orca, and floated ashore. Yes, orca can kill and eat white sharks. Do a google search. Nothing out of the ordinary.

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#897093 - 06/09/14 07:04 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: cohoangler]
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heres the article on the 10 footer, its from 09

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/10...rticle-1.380310
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#897104 - 06/09/14 10:20 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: ]
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It was a mammal as fish are cold blooded and wouldn't raise the temperature. Killer whales are mean.
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#897106 - 06/09/14 10:45 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Salman]
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Originally Posted By: Salman
It was a mammal as fish are cold blooded and wouldn't raise the temperature. Killer whales are mean.


Makos and Great Whites are partially warm blooded.

Orcas are indeed mean and have been known to kill and eat Great Whites.

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#897107 - 06/09/14 10:47 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Salman]
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There is a show on Nat Geo or something about Orcas preying on Great Whites. Apparently one pod does it a fair amount. They'll ram into a GW and then flip them upside down and hold them. The GW goes into a catatonic state and drowns.

Then they get eaten.

Then all the other Great Whites in the area clear the fu.ck out.

It's a cool program - you should watch it. KK - you can just picture it in your head.
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#897108 - 06/09/14 10:55 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Dan S.]
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I agree with cohoangler

Orca

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#897112 - 06/09/14 11:03 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Coho]
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The only reason I don't think Orca is because the transmitter went to 1900'+ below the surface.

I don't think they're capable of dives that deep.

Maybe Sperm Whale?

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#897113 - 06/09/14 11:04 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Coho]
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good suggestion guys...

heres a cool article about research done on that

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/6668575/Killer-whales-attack-and-eat-sharks.html
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#897114 - 06/09/14 11:16 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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that was my second guess SM, Megalodon just sounds cool to think about still possibly existing wink

deffinately wasnt a Shark that did it their body temps are nowhere near that, a Orca cant "that we think" dive that deep, that we know of, and their body temps are 97-100 F, which would put it in range with the water temperature of the deep offsetting it a bit...

Sperm Whales tho, can dive to almost 10k feet, and could easily swallow a GW, they get to something like 50 feet, so a 9 foot GW would look like a cut plug to it... i just cant find its body temperature, but being a mammal, its probably dead in that range...

the Sperm Whale is the king of the ocean, that we know of, for now wink

edit: the Sperm Whales temp is around 91 degrees, with water temps at 50 or 60 at certian depths, it would be dead in the range of 78 degrees... good guess SM


Edited by Evo (06/09/14 11:23 PM)
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#897116 - 06/10/14 12:18 AM Re: wonder what did it [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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In all fairness I hope it was a Blue Marlin though.
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#897121 - 06/10/14 08:20 AM Re: wonder what did it [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
There is a show on Nat Geo or something about Orcas preying on Great Whites. Apparently one pod does it a fair amount. They'll ram into a GW and then flip them upside down and hold them. The GW goes into a catatonic state and drowns.

Then they get eaten.

Then all the other Great Whites in the area clear the fu.ck out.

It's a cool program - you should watch it. KK - you can just picture it in your head.


That was in the islands offshore of the Golden Gate bridge, fascinating program.
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#897122 - 06/10/14 08:43 AM Re: wonder what did it [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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I'm pretty sure it was a Manbearpig.
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#897151 - 06/10/14 07:15 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: ]
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Again, it was an orca.

The tag senses pressure changes, which normally indicates water depth. But if the tag is indigested, it will experience the pressures associated with moving thru the orca's digestive system. Thus, it gives a false reading of 19000 feet, or whatever. The tag never went that deep. It just went thru an orca.

The temperature changes are also consistent with an orca.

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#897163 - 06/10/14 09:49 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: cohoangler]
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Agree. No mystery.

Orca.
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#897172 - 06/10/14 11:54 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: cohoangler]
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Originally Posted By: cohoangler
Again, it was an orca.

The tag senses pressure changes, which normally indicates water depth. But if the tag is indigested, it will experience the pressures associated with moving thru the orca's digestive system. Thus, it gives a false reading of 19000 feet, or whatever. The tag never went that deep. It just went thru an orca.

The temperature changes are also consistent with an orca.


There are two problems with your theory:

Ocra body temperatures are 97°-100°.

PSI at 1,900 feet (580m) is over 800.

Without doing any research, I would think it's unlikely that the digestive tract of an orca, or any large mammal, is 800 psi.

I'm guessing equipment failure.

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#897215 - 06/11/14 07:31 PM Re: wonder what did it [Re: TastySalmon]
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Bigger fish be eating littler fish.

It's the timeless ways of the seas.

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