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#906038 - 09/14/14 09:22 PM Speeding ticket deferral
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I didn't slow down soon enough going into a speed trap last Saturday night and got a speeding ticket. My insurance company is brutal on these and makes the cost of the ticket just a small down payment relative to the rate increase that lasts for 2 or 3 years.

I've read about this deferral thing before, and the cop mentioned that I might qualify for it. I guess it's a condition where you pay the fine, but it doesn't go on your record for the insurance company. Anybody know how this works? There is nothing on the ticket mentioning it. Do I call the county courthouse where the infraction occurred and ask them?

Any assistance appreciated.

Sg

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#906041 - 09/14/14 09:43 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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You can typically defer a ticket once every 7 years. It's done through the county you got the ticket in.

You pay the ticket, a deferral fee, and if you go the next year without a ticket, it will stay off your record. If you get another ticket during that year, you get to pay both, and get two-holed by your insurer.

google "ticket deferral XXXX county Washington" and you should be able to find a link explaining the process.
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#906042 - 09/14/14 09:44 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: Salmo g.]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
My insurance company is brutal on these and makes the cost of the ticket just a small down payment
Sg


If that is your only ticket than it is time for a new insurance company...

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#906049 - 09/14/14 10:03 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
Chuck E Offline
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I got a deferral & the cost of the processing was more than the ticket would have been. Rather than pay the deferral processing I did public service for a credit of so much per hour. Did the public service @ Brownsville Marina. The marina manager said I did a good job on the heads.


Edited by Chuck E (09/14/14 10:04 PM)
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#906057 - 09/14/14 10:36 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: Chuck E]
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For the same exact amount you can get an attorney, beat the charge and have it removed from your record. The court costs of defending against your attorney is more than the city, county or court would make off the ticket itself. You pay the fee, it is off your record and the city gets nothing for bothering you. If all defendants hired attorneys, they would bother ticketing you. They don't want you to know that and it is all about the money... You're going to pay it to someone.

Call a couple attornies that specialize in these types of infractions and see what they say. I paid $100 for the last photo infraction in Fife and it was dismissed before the court date.
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#906060 - 09/14/14 10:42 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: JTD]
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you guys gave me sh!t about not wearing a seatbelt and getting a ticket, and you speed and run lights?


rofl


god damn...


you can try deferred but if you get an infraction in the 1 year they will put the screws to you depending on what it is... so be a good boy Salmo, and slow down...



Edited by Evo (09/14/14 10:45 PM)
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#906062 - 09/14/14 10:52 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
you guys gave me sh!t about not wearing a seatbelt and getting a ticket, and you speed and run lights?


rofl


god damn...




Salmo G. has a job and contributes to society. You, do not.

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#906067 - 09/14/14 11:13 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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I had a ticket deferral a few years back. Went to Thurston County court clerk office or something, asked for deferral. I paid $150 and did not get another ticket for 3 years, I think, and it did not go on my record. As far as I know, you do not pay the ticket, you pay $150 flat rate. If you get another during the period, you get to pay both and they both go on your record. Have you talked to CanyonMan for an insurance quote?
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#906074 - 09/14/14 11:24 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Oh joy..another Kap pick.

I was really looking forward to another one of those and he didn't disappoint.

beathead




Wrong thread dumbass.

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#906076 - 09/14/14 11:31 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: Evo
you guys gave me sh!t about not wearing a seatbelt and getting a ticket, and you speed and run lights?


rofl


god damn...


you can try deferred but if you get an infraction in the 1 year they will put the screws to you depending on what it is... so be a good boy Salmo, and slow down...




You may want to note that salmo g admits he did wrong.... if im not mistaken you were bitching how unfair your ticket was

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#906078 - 09/14/14 11:44 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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did you seriously just say that?
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#906079 - 09/14/14 11:46 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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lol
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#906083 - 09/14/14 11:48 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
Piper
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Why dont you post a link to the old thread....

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#906088 - 09/14/14 11:57 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
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what dont you use that nugget on your neck and think about what you just said...

i didnt bitch about the ticket, i bitched that they went straight for me, not even asking the driver (Katie) for ID, Insurance, ect... i also only had that belt off for a very small fraction of time if you remember correctly, i had to answer me phone and the belt was tight...

speeding, isnt a 1 time thing, its repetative...

so with that said, i ask you this...

whats more dangerous to the public, me not wearing a seatbelt, or someone speeding?

its that whole dont throw stones thing, and karma has a weird way of showing herself...

maybe your next, like Final Destination...
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#906089 - 09/14/14 11:59 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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How does one get a ticket for not wearing your seatbelt when your car doesn't even run?
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#906090 - 09/15/14 12:01 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
Piper
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Always the victim...

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#906091 - 09/15/14 12:01 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: stonefish]
5 * General Evo Offline
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did you seriously just ask that?
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#906092 - 09/15/14 12:01 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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lol, Piper i paid the fine, dont trip, its all taken care of...
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#906093 - 09/15/14 12:03 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo

its that whole dont throw stones thing, and karma has a weird way of showing herself...

maybe your next, like Final Destination...




Now shitface (Nate) is wishing death upon people. You are a POS Nate.



Sort of like the time Nate threatened to kill himself, but didn't.

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#906094 - 09/15/14 12:04 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
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yeah thats what i said...

Hank was right, you cant read, or understand the English language, thats because you are a bumblewit, which is 1/10th of a halfwit....
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#906095 - 09/15/14 12:06 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
yeah thats what i said...

Hank was right, you cant read, or understand the English language, thats because you are a bumblewit, which is 1/10th of a halfwit....




Go dust off your GED trophy or whatever the hell they give you for being a failure.

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#906097 - 09/15/14 12:08 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
JTD Offline
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Originally Posted By: Evo


... i also only had that belt off for a very small fraction of time if you remember correctly, i had to answer me phone and the belt was tight ...




This is a gem of an excuse.


rofl
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#906098 - 09/15/14 12:09 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: JTD]
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haha poor salmo g. actually not, he will get a laugh out of this
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#906099 - 09/15/14 12:10 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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ok, what happens if she was driving on a suspended? what if she was a wanted criminal?

also, if you remember correctly, my mom hadn't singed the Registration yet cuz it was brand new and i forgot about it and just put it in there, he told me, if she didnt sign it, next time i would get the ticket...

and i wasnt driving...

funny how someone would be upset in that situation...

Jake just shut up while you are behind, youve never met me, you dont know me, so just keep it at that...
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#906100 - 09/15/14 12:11 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: JTD]
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Originally Posted By: Evo


... i also only had that belt off for a very small fraction of time if you remember correctly, i had to answer me phone and the belt was tight ...




This is a gem of an excuse.


rofl


so what was your excuse for running a light then?

had to get to the McD's before the breakfast schedule ended?
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#906102 - 09/15/14 12:13 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
my mom hadn't singed the Registration yet cuz it was brand new and i forgot about it




rofl

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#906104 - 09/15/14 12:17 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
Originally Posted By: JTD
Originally Posted By: Evo


... i also only had that belt off for a very small fraction of time if you remember correctly, i had to answer me phone and the belt was tight ...




This is a gem of an excuse.


rofl


so what was your excuse for running a light then?

had to get to the McD's before the breakfast schedule ended?




The City Ordinance states you have to stop for a free right turn for exactly 1/20th of a second to qualify as a "complete" stop on a free right turn. Magically, after hiring an attorney, the video evidence became "inconclusive."



Next.


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#906105 - 09/15/14 12:20 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: JTD]
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1/20th of a second could have killed someone...


stop at red fvcking lights JTD... and stop, means STOP, stop trying to cut corners and use slimy ass lawyers to get you out of violating the law...

do what you told me, man up and put your seat belt on... so man the fvck up and STOP at red lights, and stop signs, and crosswalks, and airport hangars, and all of that...

and slow the hell down Salmo, this isnt Days of Thunder, and you aint Cole Trickle...
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#906107 - 09/15/14 12:26 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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i paid the ticket, im pretty much sure i let it go...


on to the next one...
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#906110 - 09/15/14 12:30 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
1/20th of a second could have killed someone...


stop at red fvcking lights JTD... and stop, means STOP, stop trying to cut corners and use slimy ass lawyers to get you out of violating the law...

do what you told me, man up and put your seat belt on... so man the fvck up and STOP at red lights, and stop signs, and crosswalks, and airport hangars, and all of that...

and slow the hell down Salmo, this isnt Days of Thunder, and you aint Cole Trickle...





Do you ever hear yourself talk?


The City of Fife, in all of their wisdom and fairness, decided all by themselves that their OWN evidence was inconclusive after notice by my attorney. A photo ticket pal. They hope everyone just pays like good little subjects of the city council. Get it yet? Read anything about photo tickets much?


Pahllllleeeeease
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#906111 - 09/15/14 12:37 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: JTD]
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yeah, phototickets, just say you werent driving and if they dont have a pic of your face, walah, ticket dropped, no court, nothing...

stop hiring rat lawyers to get you out of sh!t, for doing stupid sh!t, while baggin on me for sh!t thats of the same caliber...

if you dont do it ever, you can talk sh!t, but if you just hide behind a computer and then it comes out after you belittled and degraded me, then you just look like a moron that hired a rat ass lawyer that makes a living off endangering people by getting others out of tickets for speeding and running lights, which is AGAINST THE LAW remember?

you told me the same sh!t, but you refuse to listen to even what you say, so dont question me about what i hear of what i say... cuz i hear everything, and i forget nothing... i TOLD you that...
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#906113 - 09/15/14 12:39 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Nate, you have threatened myself and MANY others with your girlfriend's "rat ass lawyer" family members. So take your own advice. Please.

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#906114 - 09/15/14 12:40 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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the head King County Prosecutor is far from a rat ass lawyer Jake...
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#906115 - 09/15/14 12:42 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
the head King County Prosecutor is far from a rat ass lawyer Jake...



Probably depends on who you ask. You're opinion certainly doesn't hold much water.

And if what you say is true, I'm sure he doesn't want to be associated w/ you.

So once again, take your own advice.

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#906118 - 09/15/14 12:47 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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a seachicken loss sure does make everybody around here cranky.
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#906119 - 09/15/14 12:52 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: dwatkins]
5 * General Evo Offline
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its 1 game, im not mad

but as you all said to me, and remember this...

just man up and pay the ticket Salmo, you knowingly committed the act, and even posted it on the internet, so just man up, pay the ticket, deal with the consequences... its simple remember?
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#906121 - 09/15/14 12:54 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
yeah, phototickets, just say you werent driving and if they dont have a pic of your face, walah, ticket dropped, no court, nothing...

stop hiring rat lawyers to get you out of sh!t, for doing stupid sh!t, while baggin on me for sh!t thats of the same caliber...

if you dont do it ever, you can talk sh!t, but if you just hide behind a computer and then it comes out after you belittled and degraded me, then you just look like a moron that hired a rat ass lawyer that makes a living off endangering people by getting others out of tickets for speeding and running lights, which is AGAINST THE LAW remember?

you told me the same sh!t, but you refuse to listen to even what you say, so dont question me about what i hear of what i say... cuz i hear everything, and i forget nothing... i TOLD you that...




Whatever.


Contrary to your own twisted sense of reality, spewing more doesn't make you a winner.


I distinctly recall the seat belt dialogue as being just as constructive. You just keep being you Amigo.



rofl
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#906125 - 09/15/14 05:23 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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Holy thread hijack!

Back to the original post. Sorry to hear Sg. About a year ago the wife went on base for the first time and wasn't sure where she was going. She was pulled over for going 25 in a 20, which also coincidentally was a school zone. MP's pulled her over and issued her a ticket. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

To make it worse, the MP"s issuing the ticket told her that it would not go on her record since it occurred on base. Sure enough, 6 month insurance policy came in about a month ago and the rates were jacked through the roof. Not only did the insurance ding for the speeding, but the school zone as well. Factored out being about another $80 per month. I guess MP's are just as clueless as your average cop, or don't give a chit about people and will lie to them. Had we known that it would go on her record, we definitely would have fought it at that point.


Good luck,


Streamer


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#906127 - 09/15/14 08:15 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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Originally Posted By: Evo
the head King County Prosecutor is far from a rat ass lawyer Jake...


Did he pull strings to get rid of your seat belt ticket?
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#906131 - 09/15/14 10:18 AM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: fish4brains]
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When you send in your ticket, ask for discovery. Sometimes they screw up the ticket or have other fatal flaws. I got a real stupid one a while back and got in quite a discussion with the officer. He got kind of mad and took off at high speed. Sure enough, when I got the ticket, he had no notes. No notes = no evidence for the judge. Dismissed. Another time I got nailed in a real bad speed trap, ( school zone when the sign and school were not visible). The radar gun was not calibrated according to the recommended schedule. All the information was right there in the ticket. When I pointed it out in court, magically my ticket and about 90% of all the tickets for the next hour were dismissed. About $10,000 or more in revenue walked out the door as they were all school zone infractions in the same area. It was so fun I was tempted to camp out there and see how much money I could cost them.

Anyway, a simple note included with the ticket should suffice, but it is possible you will have to stop by the court and hand deliver a note asking for it. It takes a few minutes but at least half the time it presents an instant out for me. I haven't got one on almost 5 years, but when you drive 20K to 30K miles in the city, it seems to be just a matter of time before they find some way to catch you doing something wrong.

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#906142 - 09/15/14 12:17 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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just for a few giggles, I went back and found this little gem... its at least a top 20 for sure beer

legal advise

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#906146 - 09/15/14 12:49 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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After the seat belt ticket redhook's gf insists that he use his baby booster seat in the car. No more tickets. Pop a binky in and she barely notices that he's there...until he shi.ts his diaper.

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#906147 - 09/15/14 12:51 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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Wow! Two whole pages; I thought I was going to read reams of advice about how to obtain the deferral. Then I discovered it is the Redhook factor taking up 90% of the thread's bandwidth. Should have expected that.

Thanks to those who provided advice. I'm gonna' check it out.

I don't get many speeding tickets, but this isn't the first one. And my insurance rates are based on not getting tickets, so they take a steep increase whenever I do get a ticket.

Thanks for nothing, as usual, Redhook.

Sg

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#906148 - 09/15/14 12:56 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: Salmo g.]
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#906151 - 09/15/14 01:09 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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One hour and fifty one minutes until noon.....
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#906153 - 09/15/14 01:17 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: stonefish]
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been here longer than that... still dumbfounded how you all could say what you said to me all while doing the exact same sh!t...

irony...


karma....


good stuff....
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#906158 - 09/15/14 01:44 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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just pay your taxes and shut up John...
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#906160 - 09/15/14 01:56 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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im not whining, you are..

did you seriously just post that?

anyways, i got better things to do today than argue with hypocrites on the internet...


later...
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#906178 - 09/15/14 03:24 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: 1LeggedMan
Nope it's home improvement time.
Winter is a coming!!




he shouldn't have to worry about a shortage of tires to hold down the new roof...

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#906198 - 09/15/14 07:35 PM Re: Speeding ticket deferral [Re: ]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: stam




...I've got a pocket full of dimes bags that says it's not true.



Fixed that for you! beer

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