#931053 - 05/30/15 09:17 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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If agree that most of think this is the way it should work. Unfortunately, the official report seems to indicate that the residents of Ferguson WERE living under rules and practices that are far different than other communities. They were being systematically targeted for city revenue. If the citizens were somehow able to pull the same thing on the city, I suspect they'd be labeled as "Economic Terrorists". It's hard to believe that any of the Johnny Badasses around here would put up with that BS without verbal or violent pushback.
In Ferguson they collect fines... in the rest of america they collect taxes... Different practice... same result
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#931061 - 05/30/15 11:25 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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This discussion really is about Olympia, not Fergusson. Again, actions have consequences. Who teaches their kid that it is okay to steal cigars using force, again another robbery which is a felony, then attack the police? Sorry, these are just norms of society that everyone must live by. The young man in Fergusson learned that the hard way.
If someone white commits a robbery, fights with the police, and gets shot, " He deserved it." Someone of color does the same and everybody bends over backwards trying to excuse their actions. Sorry, don't care. Buck up and conform with society. If you set a sequence of events in motion through your own choices and actions, then you own the consequences dealt out to you.
Nobody made those young men steal the first case of beer and that watermelon. Notice, the one on the video was the second case of beer they attempted to steal that night. They should have called it good, but they got greedy and tried to steal another one, the one they threw at the loss prevention officer. Then they fought with the officer. Did you notice the practice swing with the skateboard in the video?
Wake up young men, don't do that. Bad sh!t will happen.
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#931069 - 05/31/15 08:47 AM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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MO has a state income tax on top of the sales tax.
What states and municipalities lack in taxes they make up for in fines. They're continually increasing the fines and searching for new ways to get revenue. Got any red light cameras up there? Is welfare considered income just like unemployment? I go thru 3 red light camera intersections twice every day... I realized that if you dont run a red light you wont get a ticket...
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#931091 - 05/31/15 02:55 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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It's super simple as stated earlier. If you're going to commit crimes with no regard, there can be a hefty price to pay. How lucky do you feel?
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#931093 - 05/31/15 03:48 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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in the 385 shootings in 2015 by police so far, 80 percent of the "victims" were armed with some sort of weapon... half were white, half were "minorities".. 49 people were unarmed, and 13 were armed with toy guns they pointed at the police... half of the time the police were responding, were due to DV situations, a person threatening to commit suicide, ect... 92 of the victims were diagnosed with mental disorders.. the other half of them, were caught during nondomestic issues, IE burglaries, shoplifting, vandalism, and just the police doing what they are paid to do, drive around on the street patroling....
think of the cops as the Mafia, if you wouldnt fvck with the Mob, why fvck with the cops?
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#931103 - 05/31/15 08:10 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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Poodle Smolt
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Any time an assault occurs and an officer is involved there is a weapon involved. An officer cannot lose, understand that, because if they do their assumption is that you aim to use that weapon against them. If the tide in a physical confrontation reaches a point where they feel they are losing, they will very likely draw their weapon and shoot the aggressor.
Michael Brown had a distinct size advantage, and he used that minutes before when her robbed the store (robbery = theft + force), and again in his altercation with the officer that shot him.
The officer isn't acting as executioner. The officer is defending his or her own life. It is that simple.
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#931104 - 05/31/15 08:19 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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Also, positional asphyxia does happen. Sometimes an overweight person passes away after a prolonged physical confrontation, most of the time when restrained with both hand and ankle cuffs and laying on their stomach. It is a part of training to recognize this possibility. Again, if you fight with the police, you'll likely lose, and if you are fat, positional asphyxia may happen to you.
Therefore, don't resist arrest. Especially if you are fat.
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#931114 - 05/31/15 10:55 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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Poodle Smolt
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You are an imbecile.
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#931129 - 06/01/15 10:41 AM
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
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#931139 - 06/01/15 01:58 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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I saw a warning sign on a dumpster this weekend. Apparently tossing trash in someone else's dumpster in wa. Is punishable by 10 Years in the pokey and a 10k fine. Sounds like a opportunity to set up a trail cam and a treestand and whack some real "dirtbags".
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#931143 - 06/01/15 02:14 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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Piper
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I saw a warning sign on a dumpster this weekend. Apparently tossing trash in someone else's dumpster in wa. Is punishable by 10 Years in the pokey and a 10k fine. Sounds like a opportunity to set up a trail cam and a treestand and whack some real "dirtbags". the only thing these dirtbags need to be wacked with is a book on how to read a warning sign... perhaps cops should wear a warning sign just for dirtbags... "assault me and you may get shot"
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#931146 - 06/01/15 04:46 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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what the F'ck does that have to do with cops and dirtbags that can't obey the law?
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#931147 - 06/01/15 05:15 PM
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Repeat Spawner
Registered: 10/20/10
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Think it through you seem reasonably intelligent at times.
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#931154 - 06/01/15 08:44 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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I could be wrong, but what I think what Mr Groin is getting at, is that the punishment doesn't fit the crime... should a girl be dead because she f'cked up twice?
what he doesn't see in this situation is an unfortunate set of circumstances where a father didn't really know his daughter, what he was doing to her mentally, what was happening with her in her school, or the friends she was hanging out with.
most of the time this $hit all comes down to parenting... a solid set of parents working together to raise their kids right should instill a good sense of right from wrong, and actions and consequences...
this one hits close to home, i grew up 4 blocks from where she jumped, and I went to grade school in that same location before they tore it down and put up the middle school.
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#931210 - 06/02/15 12:54 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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Don't attempt to assault anyone, they might have a gun and shoot you... here is a case of another assault that ends in death of the assailant A Boston police officer has shot and killed a Massachusetts man who had been under surveillance by the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, ABC News has learned. The FBI had been tracking 26-year-old Usaama Rahim for several weeks, and authorities are looking into whether he may have been radicalized by ISIS propaganda online, law enforcement sources said. An officer and an FBI agent approached Rahim a little after 7 a.m. today in the parking lot of a CVS in Roslindale, Massachusetts, police said. The suspect then "came at the officers" with a "military-style knife," police said.
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#931227 - 06/02/15 02:49 PM
Re: Damn Beer Drinkers
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
Registered: 01/27/15
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Pretty simple stuff.
Until you get the cuffs on them and have them under control you don't know if they have a weapon or not.
Get on the ground now with your hands behind your back is a command.
Even Bruce Jenner knows that.
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