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#93839 - 08/06/00 04:34 PM braided fishing line
Gonefishin Offline
Fry

Registered: 07/16/00
Posts: 22
i have used monofiliament line for casting buzz bombs off the beach for ever and i was wondering if braided fishing works any better. if so, which brand should i buy.

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#93840 - 08/06/00 07:12 PM Re: braided fishing line
lester Offline
Smolt

Registered: 08/01/00
Posts: 85
Loc: west richland,wa benton
I would recommend Fireline. With the no stretch super lines it is easier to feel bites and hook set is immidiate. Fireline is a laminar fused micro-dyneema super line and will not eat guides like most of the braided lines. I have used it for years and it is tough.

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#93841 - 08/07/00 01:28 AM Re: braided fishing line
DSGkelly Offline
Alevin

Registered: 07/25/00
Posts: 18
Loc: Snohomish, WA, USA
Lester,
I resently switched to Fireline, but I have had it break on me twice under less than heavy pressure. I could not tell if it broke at the knot or just close to it. What knot do you use to tie to the Swivel, The Hook?

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#93842 - 08/07/00 10:08 AM Re: braided fishing line
Jim Bain Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/21/99
Posts: 180
Loc: Chehalis, Washington USA
Joe Littles knot tier is the best for braided lines...email me for more info.
Jim
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#93843 - 08/07/00 02:37 PM Re: braided fishing line
IronFisherman Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 12/13/99
Posts: 140
Loc: Silverdale, Washington, U.S.
I have used all kinds of braided lines for buzz bomb fishing and I think Berkely Fire Line is by far the best just dont use any kind of klinch knot.

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#93844 - 08/07/00 04:12 PM Re: braided fishing line
fishkisser99 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 12/12/99
Posts: 520
Loc: Eastsound, WA, USA
I've been using Power Pro braided line and use a Palomar knot with success...

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#93845 - 08/07/00 09:31 PM Re: braided fishing line
lester Offline
Smolt

Registered: 08/01/00
Posts: 85
Loc: west richland,wa benton
DSGkelly,
A polamer knot is the only recommended knot to tie for Fireline or other superbraids.Any knot tying book will have it in there.It is easy to tie and WILL NOT BREAK. One more note to fireline user's that i learned the hard way is to buy very good swivels or you will pull them in two on big fish. Just use a Duo-lock if not throwing spinner's.I now have a designed in breaking point on my line in case I get hung up I won't get spooled before the line breaks.Just tie a swivel on the end of the fireline and then just a short leader(6"-8")of lesser strength fireline or what ever and then a Duo-lock and when you get hung up it will break where you want it to.FISH ON!!!!!,lester

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#93846 - 08/08/00 04:18 AM Re: braided fishing line
Anonymous
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Here is a illustration for a polamar knot



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Marty
Steelheader.net marty@steelheader.net

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#93847 - 08/08/00 09:13 PM Re: braided fishing line
Anonymous
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I fish braided line 100 days a year, mostly in the salt. I use braid on my surfcasting rods. It casts a mile, is easy to use (e.g. it floats and is usually highly visible) and the coated GSP's (like Fireline) actually have good abrasion resistance -- not great, but comparable to most monos. I think buzz bombs (whatever they are) from the beach and braids would go well togther.

APPENDIX: My thoughts on various brands and knots have been posted before. The executive summary is (a) Fireline is my preferred line; (b) the choice of knots is critical; (c) be careful around this and other braided lines: the deep line cuts are painful, even dangerous. In greater detail:

Fireline (other coated gelspun polyethylene, or "GSP"): typically 14lb Fireline ("FL") breaks at 20lbs when fresh. 20lb FL breaks at 30lbs. (I don't fish 10lb much, but it broke at 13lbs when last tested.) Knots: if you want a 100% connection to swivels and the like, use a double uniknot.

Leaders: I ALWAYS fish a leader with braided lines. You need 6' or so of mono or flourocarbon ("FC") to put some stretch in your system. Braid breaks on hooksets or strikes when big fish hit big lures at speed (think GT's on trolled poppers: Hohwaiian, are you back yet?) Mono and FC stretch 15-25%. That 6' leader allows you to run a stiffer rod than you otherwise would.

Line-to-leader connections: If you don't have to cast, use a swivel. If you need to reel the connection through the guides, tie a double in the FL using either a Spider Hitch (easy) or a Bimini Twist (harder, but not that hard). Connect the doubled FL to the shock leader using an improved Albright. The "improved" part comes from starting the wraps at the loop and wrapping 5-7 times AWAY from the loop, then reversing direction and continuing to wrap 5-7 times BACK towards the leader loop. Make certain the line exits the leader loop the same way it came in. Gently tighten up, trim and superglue for a smoother, stronger finish.)

Spiderwire/ Uncoated GSP: These lines are even thinner than FL and a lot limper. They are harder to handle in lighter tests, and are also less abrasion resistant. However, they work fine. A double uniknot is the way to attach these lines to BOTH swivels and leaders (use a single uniknot for the mono or FC leader).

DO NOT use clinch or blood knots with these lines, esp. Fireline (coated GSP's).

A TRIPLE PALOMAR (three times through the hook eye) is also an excellent knot -- equal to the double uniknot (but harder to tie in my view)

There are plenty of other knots that work just as well, but these are the ones that work well for me. Any serious fisherman should have a good book on knots. The best I've seen is Geoff Wilson's "Complete Book of Fishing Knots & Rigs" (International edition, 1997). It has an orange cover and Frank Amato sells it.

FINALLY, have something on your person to break these lines. Even a heavily gloved hand will result in at least a cut glove and maybe worse. I use the cardboard centers from fax paper rolls cut in half and wrapped with electrician's tape to waterproof them. Notch the ends so the line can be wrapped lengthwise without slipping. If this sounds like too much work, Bass Pro sells a braided line breaker for $5 that does the same thing.

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For what it's worth, I don't drift fish, side drift or boondog with braided lines for salmon or steelhead. Too hard to use safely, and I don't like leaving braided line on the river bed. I have usee braid for jigs under floats, but this is a new technique for me and I can't claim any great storehouse of experience. Others on this Board swear by it, however.

[This message has been edited by Snagly (edited 08-08-2000).]

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