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#945056 - 12/17/15 01:00 PM Ban on oil exports lifted
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Story in today's Seattle PI reports the ban has been lifted. In case you were gullible enough to believe that the proposed Washington terminals were only intended to ship oil to domestic refineries, this should wake you from that slumber. Now that we all know for sure that those projects are for exports, how do we feel?

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#945057 - 12/17/15 01:09 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Loc: Snohomish, WA
Would you rather the world markets buy from the House of Saud or Uncle Sam?
We seem to want energy independence and a strong economy, but still suffer from the "not in my back yard" mentality. We can't have it both ways. Personally, I'm mostly opposed to the PNW terminals for selfish reasons (potential fish and marine impacts), but I also understand the opposite argument. It's a toughy to be certain.
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#945064 - 12/17/15 01:40 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: NickD90]
Sol Duc Offline
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10-15 years everything will be powered by nat gas and then onto electric. Fkc those dirty goat fawkers.
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#945073 - 12/17/15 02:17 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: FleaFlickr02]
WDFW X 1 = 0 Offline
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I feel like rubbing my wife down with oil and then playing a game of Twister.

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#945075 - 12/17/15 02:22 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: WDFW X 1 = 0]
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Brent crude works best. wink


Edited by Sol Duc (12/17/15 02:22 PM)
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#945082 - 12/17/15 03:17 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Loc: Bothell, Wa
Greenest Governor in world.

Unless we are talking fish or oil of course.

Vote for what I say not what I do! But hey I got a free trip to Paris, got to hang out with the other beautiful people, and saved the world from the peasants! Yay!
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#945086 - 12/17/15 03:43 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: stam
buy oil stock?


Yes. In a discussion otherwise related to things I DON'T think are good ideas, that stands out as something I think IS a good idea.

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#945087 - 12/17/15 04:00 PM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: BroodBuster]
FleaFlickr02 Offline
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
Greenest Governor in world.

Unless we are talking fish or oil of course.

Vote for what I say not what I do! But hey I got a free trip to Paris, got to hang out with the other beautiful people, and saved the world from the peasants! Yay!


Yeah. Inslee talks a great game, but he understands the dynamics at play here very well, and he knows nothing will stop the money behind these projects. He's posturing WA to make MAXIMUM tax revenues from oil by rail. Once the revenue projections reach the magic number, the permits will be signed. I hope he sticks it to 'em good, because there's a high likelihood that we'll have at least one major mess to clean up by the time this thing's over, and that costs money. Lots of it.

Need another reason to believe Inslee will cave? Consider that the Legislature still hasn't put a dent in the shortfall for the McCleary Act....

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#945167 - 12/18/15 07:32 AM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 7587
Loc: Olema,California,Planet Earth
WA needs lots of money for McCleary, fixing the roads and infrastructure, floods, and so on. New sources of revenue need to be tapped in a big way.

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#945172 - 12/18/15 09:01 AM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: FleaFlickr02]
Salmo g. Offline
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I think it's a poor strategic decision. The US should burn OPO (other people's oil) for as long as the price is right. Save domestic US oil for when it actually becomes scarce. It's handy in the long run to have a large supply of a scarce resource.

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#945178 - 12/18/15 09:32 AM Re: Ban on oil exports lifted [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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