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#958864 - 06/12/16 11:55 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
Sol Duc Offline
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Registered: 06/18/01
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
Florida has shall issue ccw.

Shall issue CCW law , but shall not bring your weapon into a bar law.


Sure, if your a sheep. I take mine into the post office too. That's why its called concealed.
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#958867 - 06/13/16 08:37 AM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: 5 * General Evo]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13556
Originally Posted By: Evo
i recently went to buy a pistol and was told that on pistols, the ATF wait time was 14 days now....

why was he allowed to get a pistol in under 14 days?

if he had a CPL, cool, but why was he issued and allowed a CPL after being investigated twice by the FBI for potential terrorism links?

in the USA, if you catch a domestic violence charge, you are prohibited from owning a firearm....

in the USA, if you have been investigated by the FBI for potential links to terrorism, and terrorist groups, you should NEVER be allowed to own a firearm....


Redhook, when you go to buy a pistol the wait time might be 14 days to do your background check for good reason. When I buy a pistol my wait time is about 15 minutes. Think about why there might be a difference.

Also, you should try to learn the difference between being investigated for anything and being convicted. Many innocent people have been investigated by the FBI for terrorist links and many other things, and no links were found. Are you saying that innocent citizens who have been investigated but don't have any links, or at least no discoverable links, to crime or terrorism should be deprived of their 2nd A rights? If so, what's the legal basis of your logic?

No doubt this shooter was a jackwagon, but even the FBI didn't find any evidence of a terrorism or criminal link or record of mental illness. If the FBI couldn't find it, no standard firearm purchase background check is going to find it either.

You should invest in learning to think logically. However, be warned that will increase your qualifications for getting a job.

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#958868 - 06/13/16 08:39 AM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: Sol Duc]
Salmo g. Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13556
Originally Posted By: Sol Duc
That goatfucker shot a lot of folks w/ out opposition. I wonder how that would have worked out in a country western bar. Florida has shall issue ccw.


Sol Duc, we don't agree on much, but I think you make an interesting point in that a gay bar is probably a much softer target than a country western bar when measured in terms of the number of patrons potentially armed.

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#958880 - 06/13/16 11:01 AM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6776
yeah its called a CPL, even i can get one smh...

secondly, being investigated by the FBI 3 fvcking times for terrorism, even tho they didnt find anything shows a PATTERN, obviously....

but then again, you run the NICS office, you know my background, you have issued me firearms and everything else right?

no....

so stop acting like you know everything....
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#958885 - 06/13/16 12:14 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
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Registered: 02/09/00
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18 shots in 6 seconds.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-snapchat-video.cnn

Really hard to mimic that level of carnage with a 5 round magazine, or a single shot of anything.

Playing Devil's Advocate here, but please tell me why, or for what purpose you think you need a rifle that can hold more than 5 rounds?

A hunting rifle can't hold more than 5 rounds....so why should the rest of them be able to?

Why does your pistol need to hold 10-20 rounds? Targets only need one accurate shot at a time.

Why is it OK to legally do and have something like this? This can be done WITHOUT any special permitting (which I also have).





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#958902 - 06/13/16 01:36 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: The Moderator]
SundayMoney Offline
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Registered: 07/06/04
Posts: 1069
Loc: Everett
Originally Posted By: paker




A hunting rifle can't hold more than 5 rounds....so why should the rest of them be able to?







I don't know/care about the other 49,but in this state there is no such restriction.

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#958905 - 06/13/16 01:54 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: The Moderator]
5 * General Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6776
Originally Posted By: paker
18 shots in 6 seconds.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/13/orlando-shooting-snapchat-video.cnn

Really hard to mimic that level of carnage with a 5 round magazine, or a single shot of anything.

Playing Devil's Advocate here, but please tell me why, or for what purpose you think you need a rifle that can hold more than 5 rounds?

A hunting rifle can't hold more than 5 rounds....so why should the rest of them be able to?

Why does your pistol need to hold 10-20 rounds? Targets only need one accurate shot at a time.

Why is it OK to legally do and have something like this? This can be done WITHOUT any special permitting (which I also have).







dont you think if you felt that way, you wouldnt own said weapons?

Charles Whitman didnt use an AK, or an AR, neither did Cho who used a POS Walther .22, and a Glock.... Oswald also didnt use an AR, and did how much damage to this country?

i still for the life of me, cannot figure out why people blame and inanimate object that needs a human to operate it, yet they blame the object... the cars and manufacturers of cars arent blamed when someone kills a family while driving drunk, why are the guns to blame here... the speed limit is 70 tops in this state, yet some cars can exceed 220 MPH... why?
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#958906 - 06/13/16 01:55 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
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oh and you cant forget McVeigh, who didnt use a gun at all, but noone is blaming Amonium Nitrate producers and Petrolium producers....
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#958908 - 06/13/16 02:06 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
ReefSkunk
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It's like blaming a job for Nate not having one.

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#958909 - 06/13/16 02:07 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
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Jake, you are still a pussy, shut up....
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#958911 - 06/13/16 02:11 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
ReefSkunk
Unregistered


Looks like Nate is back on the drugs.

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#958912 - 06/13/16 02:16 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
Lord of the Chums

Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6776
and you are still a pussy...

im not on drugs, i just got back from being fingerprinted....

got work to do, later cupcake....
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#958915 - 06/13/16 02:23 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
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Lord of the Chums

Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6776
look what you do every day... post stupid thoughts of yours about people you dont even know....

yet have the balls to call me out on it?

rofl

good work squirt...
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#958918 - 06/13/16 02:42 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you

Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4566
There is a ton of other reasons to be fingerprinted you jack-a$$.

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#958919 - 06/13/16 02:42 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
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And most all of them start with the letters RCW.

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#958920 - 06/13/16 02:55 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
One thing is 100% for certain...as gun violence continues, and mass shootings pile up, something will be done, whether it is a schitty idea, an awesome idea, or something in between there somewheres...and as long as these are the two options:

1. Ban all guns
2. The answer is more guns

...then whoever has either of those as their primary opinion will sorely dissatisfied when that solution does come about.

Since most of us here are gun owners, and support gun ownership, I will speak to #2...if we, as gun owners, support the idea that the solution to gun violence is just to get more guns, we will lose. That's just more of the same, and the same obviously hasn't been working, and public opinion...and the political representatives who work on behalf of that public opinion...will take care of the problem in a way we won't like.

The NRA and gun owners better come up with something other than "do nothing", or "we need more guns!".

Fish on...

Todd
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#958922 - 06/13/16 03:06 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6776
im not trusting my life in someone elses hands... i will take care of myself...

this, Ft Hood, Chatanooga, San Bernadino, Boston, 9/11, were TERRORISM...

these killings were done in the name of religion....

whats more dangerous guns, or religion....
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#958925 - 06/13/16 03:51 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
Lord of the Chums

Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6776
here you dropped something...






you obviously havent been paying attention....


but i should have realized that, you have the attention span of a fvcking Corn Nut...

gotta drive, seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ya later...
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#958931 - 06/13/16 06:23 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: 5 * General Evo]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: Evo
im not trusting my life in someone elses hands...


You do that virtually every day of your life. Everyone does.
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#958932 - 06/13/16 07:02 PM Re: Terrorist shot up a gay bar in Orlando. [Re: ]
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how do you say?
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