In all of our "compassion" we have twisted, subverted & perverted natural law. The weak and stupid are no longer Culled from existence. Instead we coddle them with handouts & slaps on the hand for miss behavior.

I look at it like this - I'd feel bad for killing someone for breaking into my truck

I look at it like this - I'd feel bad for killing someone for breaking into my truck - but I'd sleep great if I could bash in their face with the butt of my shotgun, and then have them serve hard labor for 6 months.

Sort of agree.

I didn't take Dan to be such a bleeding heart liberal. Conceptually I agree that theft doesn't warrant death. However, pragmatically speaking, we have created a system that rewards theft. And some, like meth head tweekers, can't stop stealing no matter what. The pragmatist in me learns from LE and the justice system that 90% of the crime is committed by the same repeat offenders. So when that asshole tweeker breaks into your truck, if we were legally permitted to shoot the bastard dead, he will stop offending. And property crime rates will plummet. I maintain that the justice system went adrift when we stopped hanging horse thieves.

Sentencing a convicted felon to hard labor might sound appealing. But let's bear in mind that it now costs more to imprison one of these low lifes per year than it does to send them to Stanford University. That is an unfair cost burden to society. The only acceptable alternative to shooting the bastard IMO is a sentence wherein the convict earns enough to pay for his own imprisonment.

OK, now my bleeding heart. Anyone can make a mistake. Beat the holy sh!t out of the thief on the first offense. Kill him for the second. Yeah, I could be good with that.

Consequences. The laws of nature are full of 'em.

Looks like we're stuck with the idiots and crooks for good.

Salmo, they said the same thing about capital punishment, it is not a deterrent.

Nothing is a deterrent to devoted criminals but capital punishment guarantees that it's a cure for recidivism.

One big draw back is that innocent people have died by CP.

With modern forensics and DNA testing the chance of error is virtually nil.

A large portion of crime would not exist if drug adiction was treated as a medical/mental health issue instead of using the criminal justice system to deal with this problem. But then all you sadists wouldn't get to validate your fantasies about beating the crap out of or killing people. Oh well

A large portion of crime would not exist if drug adiction was treated as a medical/mental health issue instead of using the criminal justice system to deal with this problem. But then all you sadists wouldn't get to validate your fantasies about beating the crap out of or killing people. Oh well

For a country that usually is looked up to as a leader on issues, we sure have a piece of sh!t for a criminal justice system.

I think a lot of it has to do with career-building prosecutors and judges, mandatory sentencing, and for-profit prisons.

Whatever it boils down to, there is little justice, and little rehabilitation going on in our "system".

After working patrol a couple years, it was obvious this whole drug enforcement thing or war on drugs was bull and a scam. It was used as a way for law enforcement to "tax" people, "extort" them with the protection of the law.

it was obvious that people with a desiese\mental illness of addiction were not in control of their actions and were only out commuting crimes because they were in a perpetual situation of being viewed as "subhuman criminals", where they were not accepted as part of society and they lacked the self control and confidence to pull themselves out of despair. If drug addiction had been treated as a desiese instead of a crime, these individuals would have a much easier and quicker path to rehabilitation. Herroin, meth, cocaine, safe pharmaceutical grade should be provided by medical professionals, with optional counseling and optional treatment. If this was the case these people could live normal lives and still be addicts, hold jobs and everything. They would not be treated like criminals and forced to commit crimes.

It would be much cheaper and more humane to just provide them with safe drugs than to have a DEA, and all the other government infrastructure to fight drugs. Also it would be better for families and communities because crime would go way down, drug running from Mexico would stop and drug use would go way down after a short time.

When addicts are not treated differently, co mingle with the rest of society many of them see the error in their ways and decide not to be addicts anymore, this has been proven in some European countries.

For a country that usually is looked up to as a leader on issues