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#99374 - 11/14/00 03:08 PM FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Double Haul Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 1440
Loc: Wherever I can swing for wild ...
FYI, for those who are interested there is a sign up sheet available at Ted's Sporting Goods in Lynnwood for gathering signitures of anglers who would support a statewide wild steelhead release regulation.
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#99375 - 11/14/00 09:32 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Anonymous
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I live out in the Forks area and I was wondering if there was a place I could sign up that was closer to my location. If not would it be possible for me to get one of the forms to post out here.

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#99376 - 11/14/00 10:21 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
ReiterRat Offline
Gearhead

Registered: 12/10/99
Posts: 431
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Rich G,
E-mail me your address and I'll send some copies snail mail.

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#99377 - 11/15/00 12:20 AM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Anonymous
Unregistered


RICH-
You didnt leave your E-mail address so Ill just post my address on here.

RICHARD GERMEAU
P.O. BOX 1594
FORKS WA. 98331.

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#99378 - 11/15/00 01:47 AM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Scaly Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 167
Loc: Sequim, WA, USA
I'm hearing some very "reliable rumors" to the effect that the F&W Commission is pulling this issue off the table for now, pending a west coast conference on the fish, next spring. But... this may be all the more reason to mount support.

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#99379 - 11/15/00 02:11 AM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6312
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Please mail me one also.
Keith Archer
25117 NE 72nd ave
Battle Ground WA 98604

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#99380 - 11/16/00 01:14 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
salmontackler Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/22/00
Posts: 270
Loc: Sunny Salmontackler Acres
I saw some forms at the shop in Ballard yesterday, Salmon Bay.

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#99381 - 11/16/00 01:39 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
CtDrifter Offline
Parr

Registered: 10/17/00
Posts: 51
Loc: ellensburg and kitsap county
Could you please send me one too. Thanks.

Chris Tolman
PO BOX 937
Poulsbo Wa 98370
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#99382 - 11/16/00 06:47 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
free drifter Offline
Alevin

Registered: 03/06/00
Posts: 12
Loc: issaquah,wa
GOOD JOB KENT!
SW.

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#99383 - 11/17/00 03:25 AM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Skookum Offline
Fry

Registered: 10/19/00
Posts: 30
Loc: Seattle, WA
If the March/April emergency closures aren't enough to get people on this bandwagon, nothing will work. If there's any good to the loss of this fishery this year, it's that I think it will get a lot of people (like me) motivated to do something. Sure points out how fragile the things we take for granted are and how easily they can be lost. Thanks for getting this thing going--I'm going to sign up at Salmon Bay tomorrow.

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#99384 - 11/17/00 08:12 AM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Jim Bain Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 11/21/99
Posts: 180
Loc: Chehalis, Washington USA
I have obviously missed something here...isn't it already law that wild steelhead must be released? But then the "managers" my open a wild season? Is this calling for this practice to stop or reinforcing the wild steelhead release rule or law. Hmmm...maybe it is just a rule and not law....don't have time to look into it...educate me somebody!

Jim
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#99385 - 11/17/00 01:18 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
ReiterRat Offline
Gearhead

Registered: 12/10/99
Posts: 431
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Jim,
Technically you are right about the rule.

What we are trying to do is get as many signatures as possible together saying "No more wild steelhead kill,statewide,year round".Plain and simple.

We then want to shove this in the state's face and say enough is enough.These signature's will be our ammo.

I also want to thank all those who have gone out of their way to come over and sign up.Kudos to those who have asked for their own sign up sheets to gather more signatures.Only together we can make this happen.

For those who would also like their own petition forms,please E-mail me at
rebakaa@earthlink.net

Thanks ReiterRat.

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#99386 - 11/17/00 01:43 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
duke Offline
Parr

Registered: 06/23/99
Posts: 57
Loc: Moscow, ID, USA
Thanks Jim, I had the exact same question. I fish mostly on the East side and just a few rivers over west. Wild steelhead release has always just been a fact of life for me. I wonder if it would be easier to go after fish and game on a river by river basis as they already have the "state wide wild release" in effect. A petition such as described here just seem redundant. Would it be possible to isolate the few rivers where F&G allows wild take so the issue is more directed. ( please don't read this as I think the petition is a poor idea because I do think it's a good idea)

just my opinion

Duke

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#99387 - 11/17/00 01:58 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Stinkfoot Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 09/30/99
Posts: 106
Loc: White Salmon, WA
ReiterRat, could you send me some of those petition forms? Thanks
hank@gorge.net

Oops, I didn'y read your post two above this one. i'll e-mail you. Never mind!

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#99388 - 11/17/00 07:57 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Sinktip Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 04/18/99
Posts: 125
Loc: Bothell, WA
I may be off base on this one but Skookum asked me earlier today about experience in political activism. Well I don't have any but driving home I got to thinking about the political process. It occurs to me that we may be going about this all wrong. If I understand the petition currently being circulated correctly, we are signing up to tell WDFG that we want a statewide C & R of native fish. Unless I'm wrong, they can look at ourlist of 150,000+ signatures and say, f*** you. So what other avenue can we use? Since Tim Eyman can get the proper number of signatures on an initiative to limit mass transportation or lower car tabs, why couldn't we get enough to put c & r of natives before the voters. Seems that taking this to the public might be the best answer. We could make C & R of natives the LAW and outside the "management" of the WDFG. I know we have tried this route before with BAN but that was a horse of a diff. color. This would potentially get the sportsmen, the environmentalists and buisness behind it. Heck, if those more informed than I think this worthy, I'm willing to donate my time helping pull it together and stumping for signatures. Besides, I suddenly have a lot of free time this spring.

Sinktip

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#99389 - 11/18/00 02:49 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
skyrise Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 03/16/00
Posts: 321
Loc: snohomish, wa
Hey Reiter Rat, I'll be stopping by Ted's ASAP to sign up. You can tell Mike or Kent or Brian, "Great Idea", and thanks, for whoever thought this up. Keep the good work guys! THANKS, cr.
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#99390 - 11/18/00 05:28 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
hrdbull Offline
Fry

Registered: 03/23/00
Posts: 24
Loc: Everett, WA
WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! Before you guys go crazy over this "All Wild Fish Release"...How about those nets waiting to scoop up your precious, just released unharmed, Steelhead? Until last year I have released 95% of my catch, 40-50 steelhead a winter. Last February, I released two in the 13 pound range in the same drift. I walked a quarter mile upstream to find 2 nets across the river. Needless to say I was not happy. Called WF&G..."Nothing we can really do about it."

I understand what you are all trying to do. Problem is we are putting the cart before the horse. Until the nets are gone we are fighting a loosing battle. The more fish that come back the more they will take. Simple as that. You want to start a petition? Try focusing on commercial harvest and more importantly Indians netting the rivers. What the sport fishermen don't need is another restriction forced upon them! WF&G can't enforce the laws they have not to mention managing any species of game in the entire state!

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#99391 - 11/18/00 08:13 PM Re: FYI Statewide Steelhead Release Sign Up
Double Haul Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 1440
Loc: Wherever I can swing for wild ...
Rieter Rat and I discussed the list idea before the local closures came up. The intent is to show simple support (a show of hands) of a statewide C&R rule for wild steelhead. The commision is currently looking at this issue. We felt if we had a large list of signitures (even from one shop has an example) supporting a statewide C&R ruling that it would send a pretty powerful testimony supporting such a ruling. If you support it please sign it, if you don't, well do what you believe will help, but DO something. Continue to tell the WDFW & commision what the customer wants, believe me there is a couple of small vocal fishing groups around Puget Sound that support C&K seasons and are actively opposed to total C&R. We as C&R anglers can choose to take some action or we can simply complain that if we don't bonk or if we release the tribes will get our share. Sorry I believe two wrongs don't make a right, I'm willing to take my chances. Hrd Ball if your concerned about forgone opportunity maybe someone like Salmo G. could share some philosophy on that subject.

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