Check

 

Defiance Boats!

LURECHARGE!

THE PP OUTDOOR FORUMS

Kast Gear!

Power Pro Shimano Reels G Loomis Rods

  Willie boats! Puffballs!

 

Three Rivers Marine

 

 
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#993701 - 09/17/18 09:24 PM FISA Declasification
RICH G
Unregistered



Top
#993702 - 09/17/18 09:40 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
Lord of the Chums

Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6778
you are about to see how corrupt the government is...
_________________________
BLM IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
ANTIFA IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION


Top
#993703 - 09/17/18 09:44 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
RICH G
Unregistered


I wonder what excuses will be to try and justify what they did.

Top
#993704 - 09/17/18 10:54 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
More abuse of power and obstruction of justice from the president.
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#993709 - 09/18/18 06:42 AM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
RICH G
Unregistered


"More abuse of power and obstruction of justice from the president."

Funny I don't see how transparency is abuse of power and obstruction, he just needs to declassify it all, but that likely could compromise Hubbers and the indictments.

Top
#993716 - 09/18/18 08:57 AM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Cherry picking information is not only not "transparency", it's exactly the opposite...obfuscation.

Fish on...

Todd
_________________________


Team Flying Super Ditch Pickle


Top
#993742 - 09/18/18 03:05 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Todd
Cherry picking information is not only not "transparency", it's exactly the opposite...obfuscation.

LOL

Only in Todd's little world could declassifying and releasing relevant information be considered "cherry picking".



Hank seems unfamiliar with the term cherry picking.
_________________________
She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

Bon Scott - Shot Down in Flames

Top
#993750 - 09/18/18 05:23 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
NickD90 Offline
Shooting Instructor for hire

Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7204
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, so I'm all for seeing less black bars hiding information regarding our duly elected officials. Whatever is below these black bars - good or bad, be that as it may, is OUR information. As long as the info truly does not affect National Security - a high bar that needs to be proven if possible, then let's see it all...political parties be damned. Just my $0.02.
_________________________
“If the military were fighting for our freedom, they would be storming Capitol Hill”. – FleaFlickr02

Top
#993753 - 09/18/18 06:16 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
larryb Offline
The Rainman

Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 2314
Loc: elma washington
there should be Declassification of the total document not just parts
_________________________
don't push the river it flows by itself
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.
FREE PARKER DEATH TO RATS

Top
#993754 - 09/18/18 06:34 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Dan S. Offline
It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 16958
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
It seems pretty partisan to release part of the documents. Also seems like a desperate move.

Reek knows he's in trouble.
_________________________
She was standin' alone over by the juke box, like she'd something to sell.
I said "baby, what's the goin' price?" She told me to go to hell.

Bon Scott - Shot Down in Flames

Top
#993757 - 09/18/18 07:07 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: larryb]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: larryb
there should be Declassification of the total document not just parts


This...not just the cherry picked parts that Trump's...ahem..."legal team"...thinks will help him.

Fish on...

Todd
_________________________


Team Flying Super Ditch Pickle


Top
#993760 - 09/18/18 08:44 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
5 * General Evo Offline
Lord of the Chums

Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 6778
While they're at it, release the JFK files, and the Roswell files... All of them....
_________________________
BLM IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
ANTIFA IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION


Top
#993761 - 09/18/18 08:53 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: Todd]
NickD90 Offline
Shooting Instructor for hire

Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7204
Loc: Snohomish, WA
Originally Posted By: Todd
Originally Posted By: larryb
there should be Declassification of the total document not just parts


This...not just the cherry picked parts that Trump's...ahem..."legal team"...thinks will help him.

Fish on...

Todd


+ 1 agree.
_________________________
“If the military were fighting for our freedom, they would be storming Capitol Hill”. – FleaFlickr02

Top
#993765 - 09/18/18 09:29 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
RICH G
Unregistered


Q said that Rosenstein will not release the documents as Trump ordered and will be fired as a result. Mueller works for Rosenstein so you know where this is headed, not to mention the content of the declassified documents are bound to be not good for some individuals, because this move by POTUS has triggered an all out assault.

Top
#993766 - 09/18/18 09:53 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
This is unprecendented. There could be violations of the Privacy Act.
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#993769 - 09/19/18 06:43 AM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
RICH G
Unregistered


"This is unprecendented. There could be violations of the Privacy Act."

Steelheadman,

Executive Order 13526
Sec 1.7
"Classification Prohibitions and Limitations. (a) In no case shall information be classified, continue to be maintained as classified, or fail to be declassified in order to:
(1) conceal violations of law, inefficiency, or administrative error;
(2) prevent embarrassment to a person, organization, or agency;
(3) restrain competition; or
(4) prevent or delay the release of information that does not require protection in the interest of the national security."


Edited by RICH G (09/19/18 06:46 AM)

Top
#993806 - 09/19/18 03:07 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Here is what transparency looks like:

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/18/648722358...ils-some-donors

Supreme Court Orders Disclosure For Dark Money, As New Report Unveils Some Donors

September 18, 20185:01 PM ET

Heard on All Things Considered

PETER OVERBY


Chief Justice John G. Roberts had blocked a lower court order that would have required politically active nonprofits to disclose their donors. But on Tuesday the full Supreme Court overturned his stay.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday insisted that many donations to predominantly conservative political nonprofit groups — what's often called dark money — be disclosed, seven weeks ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

The ruling closes, at least for now, a loophole that has allowed wealthy donors to finance aggressive ads while staying anonymous. Crafted by the Federal Election Commission nearly 40 years ago, the loophole flourished after the 2010 Citizens United ruling.

The court set aside an order issued by Chief Justice John Roberts on Saturday. The social welfare group Crossroads GPS, a defendant in the lawsuit, had fought to stall disclosure while it prepares to appeal. It failed in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals and then appealed to the Supreme Court.

The disclosure requirement is expected to apply to explicitly political ads by nonprofit groups for the remaining weeks of the campaign season.

The decisions came in a 2016 lawsuit against Crossroads and the FEC, by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the federal district court in Washington, D.C., last month ruled in CREW's favor. She gave the FEC 45 days to replace the regulation, which it didn't do.

CREW's executive director, Noah Bookbinder, said the Supreme Court ruling "is going to affect spending in the 2018 elections. Groups that run these kinds of ads — ads that tell you to vote for or against another candidate — are going to have to disclose their contributors, and that is incredibly important."

The Supreme Court's decision comes less than a week after a new research report by the government reform group Issue One, which puts some dollar amounts on what these unreported donors are giving. The report, which took a year of research, finds that the top 15 politically active nonprofits raised and spent more than $600 million on campaigns between 2010, when Citizens United boosted secret fundraising, and 2016.

The secret giving is made possible by a regulatory loophole at the FEC. The groups, usually organized as 501(c)(4) social welfare organizations or 501(c)(6) business associations, don't register as political committees with the commission. With the loophole, the FEC wants donor disclosure only when a donor earmarks the money for specific ads.

The top four spenders identified by Issue One are the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the mainstream conservative Crossroads GPS, the Koch network's Americans for Prosperity and the National Rifle Association. Issue One says that collectively, the four groups pumped at least $357 million into elections between 2010 and 2016.

"Opaque organizations are using contributions from opaque donors and secretly funding election campaigns and ads that are urging viewers to vote for or against candidates," said Michael Beckel, research manager at Issue One. "And it remains very difficult to track back the true sources of dark money groups."

Meanwhile, Americans for Prosperity has launched AFP Action — a superPAC that will regularly report its donors to the FEC, sidestepping the disclosure controversy.

*************

Fish on...

Todd
_________________________


Team Flying Super Ditch Pickle


Top
#993811 - 09/19/18 03:56 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Benghazi!

Fish on...

Todd
_________________________


Team Flying Super Ditch Pickle


Top
#993830 - 09/19/18 09:59 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: ]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: Steelheadman
This is unprecendented. There could be violations of the Privacy Act.

Unprecedented?

Violations of the Privacy Act?

Leadheadman is such a dumfuk.

Washington Post:

The Obama administration on Wednesday released a previously classified order that directed Verizon Communications to turn over a vast number of Americans' phone records.



Hey stupid stick to the subject of the FISA warrants that were approved by a judge regarding national security. You are really adapt at comparing apples to oranges.
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
#993831 - 09/19/18 10:05 PM Re: FISA Declasification [Re: Steelheadman]
Steelheadman Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 4166
Loc: Poulsbo, WA,USA
No wonder why Hank claims he never voted for Trump:

Trump broke the law by asking Russians to hack Hillary's emails
_________________________
I'd Rather Be Fishing for Summer Steelhead!

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Search

Site Links
Home
Our Washington Fishing
Our Alaska Fishing
Reports
Rates
Contact Us
About Us
Recipes
Photos / Videos
Visit us on Facebook
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Recent Gallery Pix
hatchery steelhead
Hatchery Releases into the Pacific and Harvest
Who's Online
0 registered (), 1285 Guests and 21 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Sunafresco, Trotter, MickLee, NoyesMaker, John Boob
11502 Registered Users
Top Posters
Todd 27838
Dan S. 16958
Sol Duc 15727
The Moderator 13947
Salmo g. 13589
eyeFISH 12619
STRIKE ZONE 11969
Dogfish 10878
ParaLeaks 10363
Jerry Garcia 9013
Forum Stats
11502 Members
17 Forums
72973 Topics
825669 Posts

Max Online: 3937 @ 07/19/24 03:28 AM

Join the PP forums.

It's quick, easy, and always free!

Working for the fish and our future fishing opportunities:

The Wild Steelhead Coalition

The Photo & Video Gallery. Nearly 1200 images from our fishing trips! Tips, techniques, live weight calculator & more in the Fishing Resource Center. The time is now to get prime dates for 2018 Olympic Peninsula Winter Steelhead , don't miss out!.

| HOME | ALASKA FISHING | WASHINGTON FISHING | RIVER REPORTS | FORUMS | FISHING RESOURCE CENTER | CHARTER RATES | CONTACT US | WHAT ABOUT BOB? | PHOTO & VIDEO GALLERY | LEARN ABOUT THE FISH | RECIPES | SITE HELP & FAQ |