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#587225 - 03/09/10 08:56 AM Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments?
Captain Offline
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Registered: 10/16/99
Posts: 318
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#587235 - 03/09/10 10:38 AM Re: Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments? [Re: Captain]
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Registered: 03/08/99
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Seems to me the author is minus any facts. A lot of mights and maybe's and on one hand he wants economic based decision making then further along he wants science based.
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#587251 - 03/09/10 11:43 AM Re: Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments? [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/12/09
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Mmmm interesting read. Is anyone else concerned over the use and abuse of executive orders? Should be evidence for some that both sides play for the same team, just that each side likes to take away something different.

Should any of these "spatial closures" go down,.....they'll be prying my fishing rod from my cold dead hands.
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#587273 - 03/09/10 12:26 PM Re: Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments? [Re: StinkingWaters]
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"The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters."

Not taking sides just slamming the opinionated factless article. Right off the bat it falls into spin. It was open 60 days for public comment. The sky hasn't fallen yet.

Here is the framework:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/...-Task-Force.pdf

"Morlock fears that "what we're seeing coming at us is an attempted dismantling of the science-based fish and wildlife model that has served us so well. " Oh really? Well?

Does this sound like NOAA is "anti-use"?

NOAA Provides $10 Million to Support New England Groundfish Fishery
March 1, 2010

NOAA announced today an additional $10 million to preserve fishing opportunities for the New England fishing industry and continue the development of a new sector program in the groundfish fishery. Over the last two years, a total of $47.2 million has been committed to the groundfish fishery and the transition to sectors.

Of the $10 million that was provided by Congress, $5 million will go directly to the commonwealth of Massachusetts and the states Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Maine to set up permit banks. A permit bank is a collection of fishing permits purchased and held by an organization to provide access rights such as days-at-sea and annual catch shares for qualifying fishing vessels.

“By working together with the states, we hope to provide the small fishing vessels and small, local communities with increased access to capital, so they can more effectively fish healthy stocks,” said Eric Schwaab, NOAA assistant administrator for NOAA’s Fisheries Service.

Permit banks are expected to provide owners of fishing vessels with limited or no groundfish fishing history an opportunity to lease additional fishing days or allocation at a reasonable cost. This will make it much more economically viable for small fishing vessels and local communities to remain a vital part of New England fisheries.

The $10 million from Congress also includes $546,000 in direct aid for fishing sector managers and vessel operators, adding to the $954,000 already allocated to offset sector startup and operational costs in 2009 and 2010.

In addition, the $10 million includes nearly $4 million for dockside and at-sea monitoring, which will create jobs for monitors and observers in local communities. Finally, $485,000 will go to NOAA’s Fisheries Service for infrastructure and programmatic support.

NOAA understands and predicts changes in the Earth's environment, from the depths of the ocean to the surface of the sun, and conserves and manages our coastal and marine resources.
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#587485 - 03/09/10 11:58 PM Re: Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments? [Re: ]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
Now 'closed waters' and 'fishing seasons' are suddenly a new thing and are the direct result of Obama's black-gay-commie-jew Sharia Law?

Interesting. smirk

I noticed 100% of that 'rally' was old fat white guys in baseball hats.

They were a misspelled, crayon written sign away from being an official teabagger love-in, and a white sheet away from a cross burning.


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#587521 - 03/10/10 11:06 AM Re: Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments? [Re: Irie]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article...hing.html?cat=9

"In what may be the worst example of outdoor sports reporting in the history of America, ESPN has claimed that President Barack Obama is on the verge of banning recreational fishing.

ESPNOutdoors.com writer Robert Montgomery posted an article today claiming that the administration's decision to end the public comment phase of the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force means that
Obama is likely preparing to issue an executive order outlawing recreational fishing in America.

As a sportsman who covers fisheries management and politics I do think there are many issues surrounding the Interagency Ocean Policy Task Force and its eventual recommendations that all fishermen should be aware of and concerned about.

But to go from concern to suggesting that President Obama is about to ban fishing in America is the most absurd and irresponsible thing I have ever seen a major news outlet publish. There is not even a remote possibility that a standing president of the United States will outlaw fishing in America."

Keep an eye on your guns, bacon, women, and fishing rods...Sharia Law is comin' to town...not.

Fish on...

Todd
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#587675 - 03/10/10 07:17 PM Re: Spatial planning may shut down rivers? Comments? [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
More:

ESPN takes one for the team:

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/saltwater/columns/story?columnist=bowman_steve&id=4982359

...and Media Matters weighs in on the issue:

http://mediamatters.org/research/201003100014

Hard to believe that some might want to distort the truth for political purposes, isn't it? Nah...considering who were talking about, it's pretty much par for the course.

Fish on...

Todd
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