4 Salt, no hard feelings were taken, nor was I trying to deliver any. It's one of those font things I guess...lol

I didn't take your post as a dis, so we be down like fo' flat tires on a lowrider.

Catch22, reel time, whomever the moniker. I tried sending you an email, but that was blocked, so I sent this. See below.

Just wanted to say sorry if I singled you out too much in the Vision thread. I was pissed before I read the thread and I was pissed when I posted.

I have no idea where Estcada is, so I don't have a list handy for locations in Oregon. I know there are not many locations in Oregon, but new accounts are building each day. You will have to namedrop to your tackle provider. Several places started selling Vision products where I live and where I fish because of name-dropping. It makes it easier for me.

I'm sorry no one replied to your email, but I'll try and see if I can't answer your question personally when I find out more. I know most of the Vision guys are out most of the time since they have to pull duties normally designed for more employees.

I know where Joe lives...LOL so picking up hooks is easier on me...lol

I would have emailed you this, but your mail icon is blocked. Feel free to PM me, or email me at this address: all_4_the_chinookie@hotmail.com

Again, I'm sorry for tearing in like that. I've been dealing with PR stuff all week (with what I do) so I know the headaches from Joe's end, but also from your end, but because I knew it from Joe's end, I erupted. (gotta love run-on sentences).

I'm normally a peaceful guy, honest....LOL

You'll like the hooks if you like Gammies, but you can't compare them to Owner's and other manufacturers of that caliber, but they do greatly rival gamakatsu. The better thing is that they can be resharpened if you are into stretching out your hooks. Again, don't have any negativity towards Joe and those guys because of my post. They are really a good bunch of guys, and hopefully you can see that in future dealings with them.

I consulted in the beginning on the Vision website, for free, and I can attest that the site is under construction. I can't even go into details about the headaches of dealing with the ISP's. We try not to post too much about the site because we don't want to upset Bob, but it is in the works.

Sometimes sites take years in the works with full-time employees, but most of the guys have day jobs and usually their time is not their own, so your understanding is appreciated.

take care,
Mike