That was one of the most helpful posts I have ever read, thanks so much, and the rest of you guys too.

I have a spot to try this summer, and II dont have a DR, on the little row boat so I'll prolly be using a lead weight...

but lead never seems to work for me, I can never get it down... I was fishing SOuthwort last summer, with an 8 oz. and my set up was on the suface like 200 feet. behind me, what do I do about that?

Thanks for the other infor smile you've been a big help.
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