Geez Vince,....hard as I tried, I couldn't resist the bait. I swam by the offering several times, swatted at it a time or two, followed it all the way to shore before spooking........ and then I came back days later and bit anyway.... As hard as I tried, I just could help it. you trolled it by so nicely.... Let me take a crack at replying to your lure. Lest we forget what the lure was, here it is:

QUOTE: And the Christian Science Monitor is still a great source. Which is odd, because without the "Monitor" part, Christian Science is an oxymoron.

And I'll troll that one reallll slooow. Nibble, nibble is that a bite?

So, here I go....

Many of the most influential scientists in all of history have been good old fashioned Bible-believing Christians. That doesn't prove Christianity, but I do think that it's unfair to label Christains as non-scientific. Examples:

JOHANN KEPLER - The founder of physical astronomy, discovered the laws of planetary motion, proved heliocentricity of the solar sytstem, built the first ephemeris tables for tracking star motion, etc. Kepler also studied seminary, and coined the term that he was merely "Thinking God's thoughts after him." A quote from one of Kepler's books: "Since we astronomers are priests of the highest God in regard to the book of nature, it befits us to be thoughtful, not of the glory of our minds, but rather, above all else, of the glory of God."

FRANCIS BACON - Primary person responsible for the formulation and establishment of the "Scientific Method", among other achievements. A quote from his diary: "There are two books laid before us to study, to prevent our falling into error; first, the volume of the scriptures, which reveal the will of God; then the volume of the creatures, which express His power."

BLAISE PASCAL - The founder of hydrostatics, and a cofounder of hydrodynamics. First deriver of differential calculus principals. Invented the barometer, etc. Also wrote Calvinistic papers defending his faith.

ROBERT BOYLE - The founder of modern chemistry. The basic gas law in Chemistry is..... Boyle's Law. Lots of accomplishments in physics and chemistry. Yet he was very active in Christian missionary work, including Bible translation into new languages.

ISAAC NEWTON - Discovered gravity.... Ok, discovered the Law of Universal Gravitation, the three laws of motion, dynamics, developed the particle theory of light propagation, etc. , etc.
However, with all of that, he had time to write many books on biblical subjects, which profess his own belief in God. He even wrote papers refuting atheism and defending creaion and the Bible.

MICHAEL FARADAY - Certainly one of the greatest physicists of all time. He developed the sciences of electricity and magnetism, discovered electromagnetic induction, invented the generator, etc. Oh yeah, and he was a very public believer in the God of the Bible.

JOHN DALTON - The father of modern atomic theory. Had numerous important inventions and discoveries. A practicing believer his entire adulthood.

WILLIAM PROUT - As a physiologist, he was first to identify basic foodstuffs such as fats, protiens, carbohydrates, etc. As a chemist, he was first to discover that atomic weights of elements could be identified as a series of relative whole numbers. And an outspoken believer in the Bible.

SAMUEL MORSE - Invented the telegraph. The first message he sent was: "What hath God Wrought!" (Numbers 23:23). He invented lots of other cool stuff, too. A couple of years before his death, he wrote: "The nearer I approach to the end of my pilgrimage, the clearer is the evidence of the divine origin of the Bible, the grandeur and sublimity of God's remedy for fallen man are more appreciated, and the future is illuminated with hope and joy."

JOSEPH HENRY - The elctronically inclined will recognize the last name (the Henry is the unit of measure of inductance). He discovered self-induction, invented the electric motor and the galvanometer, plus a bunch of other stuff. And he made it a regular practice to stop and pray to God to ask for divine guidance at important junctures of his experiments.

MATTHEW MAURY - The founder of modern hydrography and oceanography. Psalm 8 is inscribed on his tombstone (his request).

LOUIS PASTEUR - Established Germ Theory. did the leading work on Bacteriology, developed vaccines for rabies, dyptheria, anthrax, and more. Developed the processes of pasteurization and sterilization. Arguably the greatest biologist of all time. But, in his own lifetime, he was ridiculed by most of the biological establishment for his staunch opposition to Darwin and his defense of Christianity. He obviously believed in God, as affirmed in his personal writings.

WILLIAM THOMPSON, LORD KELVIN - Numerous contributions in physics and mathematics. He established the scale of absolute temperature (degrees Kelvin). He also established thermodynamics as a formal scientific discipline. Yet another Bible-believing Christian.

JOSPEH LISTER - a surgeon who contributed greatly to the development of antiseptic surgery through the use of chemical disinfectants (where would we be without Listerine???). He publicly expressed his belief in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity more than once.

There are lots more, imcluding some from the very recent past like: George Washington Carver, Werner Von Braun, and others.

Now, I know some seriously excellent researchers who don't believe in God. But, I also know some excellent one's who do. I just don't think it's fair or accurate to paint us poor, old Bible believin' types as nonscientific idiots.

I really enjoy your posts on the fishing sites. Thanks for passing good info.

Til next time: May the Lord bless you and keep you, may he make his face to shine upon you and give you peace!... or, you can just substitute: "See you next time".javascript:void(0)
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Fisherdan