Sky-Guy, I tie a bead-chain swivel to my mainline and run about 4ft. of 40lbs. leader to the plug (do-not use flasher or dodger) troll fast (4-5mph) and run them a minimum 20 ft off the dr. Oh yeah, if you have an all white with a thin dark green stripe down the back, don't waste your time, give them to me to properly dispose of.