I don't think you deserve a flame party there runabait, and when I first posted this, I surely didn't mean to step on anybody's boots just because they fish on Tokul Creek. It was just an observation of mine and a statement that I couldn't enjoy that type of fishing. It's a pretty exciting place when the fish are in and everybody is catching them. I also know that most of the regulars that fish the creek help to keep some sort of order by brow beating the snaggers and those who don't obey the rules. If that kind of fishing gets your blood pumping, more power to you. You do need to get more sleep though.......jeesch....posting at 1AM....