I do see a need for a voice for the sportsmen. I appreciate any effort to this end and will join if can get an idea of the direction this effort will take and the direction fits my opinion of what needs to be done. I can accept Scaly's answer as this organization being in the concept stage. Vague mission statements,cliches like "thinking outside the box" and statements like "will not take on any issues" are not enough for me to change my support from one group to another, even though the ones I do support seem asleep at the wheel.