Hank, it's a community board meeting I am not the only attendee. The hand wringers want more police.in their mind there is a peep behind every bush. The police want more police because that's what empire builders do. the criminals want more shat to sell to buy drugs.

jerry, it's only a circle if you feel you need a gun to protect yourself at all times. I have never been in a situation where I feel a gun would have helped so I don't see concealed carry as a benefit. Guns at home are a different story.