#95208 - 09/08/00 05:15 PM
Re: BUSH OR GORE, who's better for salmon?
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Eyed Egg
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It appears, as typically found within the realm of debating politics, that many opinions and facts exist which support or refute the claims of candidates here. Many educated and emotional arguments have been laid out here before we sportsman.
Some here have changed the point of focus on how "we sportsman" are becoming divided. This reply of mine here goes toward displaying how this "condition" cannot go unavoided, and is purely human nature(Democratic Society anyway) and natural. The goal and ultimate decision in November must not be taken lighly and healthy discussion is crucial in determining the partisan strength(majority) and characteristics we all want in our next president.
As an avid sportsman(hunting & fishing), we voters must looks further past our own inherent "desires"(fishing & hunting I am sad to say) and seek out other categories which may help or hinder the country AS A WHOLE. Fishing & hunting is a privilage, not a requirement for survival, in these modern times. As stated in earlier replies, gun ownership must be kept in tack or as history has shown us, can lead to very unpleasant societal events(i.e. China). We must also look at who can keep our citizens employed making a living while maintaining balance within our enviromental issues. Some believe the Demo's are better at the environmental issues, and some say the Repub's are better at the support of businesses. Well, we must then choose the lesser of two evils here my friends.... We know how presently the Demo's are cracking down on big business, taking credit for the good of the economy they had almost no play in, and have environmental agenda items which would place thousands of Americans out of work and send business to other countries. Folks, as a moral sportsman here, I cannot accept that good people such as I could live with the fact that we have taken thousands of Americans out of their jobs so that you and I could see a few more trees in the woods or catch a few more salmonoids. Personally, I would give up ALL my hunting and fishing rights before I would sacrifice someone else's life and relocate an environmentally-damaging business to another country to decimate their natural resources! We need to keep our business here, and make them better...not put them out of business like Greenpeace or other Gore-support organizations have on thier agenda.
Granted, one president, under our system of checks and balances CANNOT hope to pass or implement "personal agenda" programs which go against the grain of the American People and Congress. Those who "think" that a rogue president can somehow destroy our environment like their homestate is reported to be(TX was polluted way before GW became governor folks!) or somehow pull down the strenth of the nation's economy(economy driven by private sector commercial business-more supported by Republicans...note the Microsoft case for example) are sadly misinformed and fairly weak minded I am sorry to say.
As a Clinton-era veteran from the US Navy, I can tell you all first hand that our military is DEFINATELY changing.....for the worst I reluctantly admit. The ship I served on out of Bremerton was less than 30 years old and had several hundred million dollars sunk into it only 8 years before they chopped it up! The reasoning was due to the fact that it was nuclear powered(not nuclear weapons...down Liberals!...down!) and the governmental cutbacks created a cost-reduction event which implemented decommissioning of ALL nuclear powered ships with the exception of Aircraft Carriers and Submarines(they MUST remain nuclear due to the strategic importance of such). Just taking our ship out of the fleet imposed a serious reduction in combat readiness of the Western Coast of the USA. We were the ONLY ship in the fleet that could shoot down an incoming missile cruising at 5 feet of altitude traveling at over mach 2. Tell me this didn't hamper our military forces people! If any of you veterans who frequent this BB can actually find it within yourselves to continue the Democratic support(or disembowlement) of our defending organizations, you have sadly lost your way toward sensibility. My father, God bless him, fought in WWII as a medic and machine gunner against the tyranny of the Germans. When I, or you, speak to our veterans always keep in mind how they must feel when THEY see the unraveling of the country's military forces....
Remember, that Gore served over in Viet Nam as a pencil pusher...not a real soldier with a gun or any other position remotely near a gun. There is definately a reason for this if I am not mistaken. I personally believe that SOME of the "gun control" measures may be logical and healthy for us, but the agenda of Liberal Demo's goes much further than that my friends. This is not the NRA speaking to you, it is common fact of their agenda...look at the supporters of the Democratic party right now for instance. The only gun-bearing society that I know of that supports the Demo's is the Chineese Government...
Furthermore, take a look at our liberally-friendly media lately. What do you all see the Demo's doing lately that the Repub's are not? Can you say HOLLYWOOD? Yes, folks, the Demo's are utilizing their many liberal moviestars to help them in their endevor to win over the American voters...funny how that is. Have you all heard of Barbara Streisand, Kim Bassinger, or Alec Baldwin? Check out their agendas please and keep that in mind when you vote this November. If you don't think these "stars" have directed their hard earned $$ to the Demo's you had better pay more attention to who the Demo's are taking $$ from these days(Budhist, Chineese, etc). Very disturbing folks....more so than pondering about TX I would hope...
My last point here is this. Many folks are becoming less and less tolerant of God-fearing individuals and societies in our schools, government, and society in general. I personally do not judge people on this aspect, but it is becoming very disturbing to see folks ridicule those who have a strong, written, and moral set of guidlines by which they live and control their lives. As a christian myself, it makes me very unsettled to see this system of morality and selfpreservation becoming less instilled and actually becoming a "bad thing" among people.
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BUSH OR GORE, who's better for salmon?
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8 FOOT LEADER
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08/30/00 03:49 AM
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