#992516 - 08/22/18 02:40 PM
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Antifa are facists, and are nothing more than the imbecilic pussies that destroy Seattle every May Day....
we need more people like Ruffio Panman....
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#992517 - 08/22/18 02:59 PM
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You are a fuckin idiot, too, if you believe that. Just because you don't like them doesn't make them fascists. Fascism has an actual definition, it's not just an insult.
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#992518 - 08/22/18 03:08 PM
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Cohen claimed that he violated campaign finance laws on behalf of and under the direction of Trump. When Cohen was reimbursed for shutting up Donny's whores, was it a personal check from Donny Two Scoops, or was it a check drawn on the Trump Campaign account? I heard today that Trump is claiming he is in the clear because he wrote a personal check...but...if the intent was to shut up Stormy to help his campaign, then it is a campaign finance violation to not use campaign money. He may have admitted to the crime when he said that he wrote a personal check in an interview. Fish on... Todd
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#992521 - 08/22/18 03:21 PM
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#992525 - 08/22/18 03:55 PM
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Not that facts are of much use to Magarglers, but here are some for you, anyway, if only to show what an idiot you are.
These are the 14 elements of fascism:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6. Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20)
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I realize I am speaking to the same Magargler who thinks that Muslim terrorists are fascists, only because Hannity keeps calling them that, but there are the elements of fascism.
You'll note that almost all of them require being a state actor, a government. People may support fascism and be fascists in ideology, but not just because Hank doesn't like them or Hannity says they are.
Anything on that list sound familiar? It should, it sound like the GOP these days, and you can thank Trump and his Magarglers for that.
Congrats.
Fish on...
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#992526 - 08/22/18 03:58 PM
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yeah, like Antifa asking the police to shut down the peaceful protest in Seattle last weekend or whenever it was... which is forcefully suppressing the opposition... which is fvcking fascism.... hell, even the Washington Post says they are the equivalent of Neo-Nazis... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...m=.561beb5b114fFVCK Antifa, and fvck anyone that is part of them, and fvck anyone that defends them... they are vile communist/anarchist pieces of sh!t...
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#992527 - 08/22/18 04:06 PM
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oh, and i remember you bringing up a while back about Antifa hasnt "beaten" anyone wearing a MAGA hat... no, they just beat up liberal Bernie supporters because they carry an American flag... https://www.thechronicle-online.com/news...c1-3d5693d12fddfvck Antifa, id gladly knock the lenses out of their glasses for them...
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#992528 - 08/22/18 04:11 PM
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Communists and anarchists, and fascists?
You know that those are exactly the opposite of each other, right?
Again, it's not defending them to call you an idiot for thinking they are fascists, it's just pointing out to the idiots what fascists are, and are not.
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#992530 - 08/22/18 04:12 PM
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No, they don't, Hank. They act like assholes, and vigilantes, douchebags, but nothing at all like fascists.
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#992531 - 08/22/18 04:13 PM
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They don't control the military, they aren't nationalistic, they aren't corporatists, they aren't obsessive about national security, they don't disdain the media...you are confusing them with the GOP again.
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#992532 - 08/22/18 04:15 PM
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. Anti-fascism has been an element of movements holding many different political positions, including social democratic, nationalist, liberal, conservative, communist, Marxist, capitalist, anarchist, socialist, and centrist viewpoints. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism
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#992533 - 08/22/18 04:17 PM
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#992534 - 08/22/18 04:20 PM
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Not that facts are of much use to Magarglers, but here are some for you, anyway, if only to show what an idiot you are.
These are the 14 elements of fascism:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6. Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20)
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I realize I am speaking to the same Magargler who thinks that Muslim terrorists are fascists, only because Hannity keeps calling them that, but there are the elements of fascism.
You'll note that almost all of them require being a state actor, a government. People may support fascism and be fascists in ideology, but not just because Hank doesn't like them or Hannity says they are.
Anything on that list sound familiar? It should, it sound like the GOP these days, and you can thank Trump and his Magarglers for that.
Congrats.
Fish on...
Todd Before I read the citation, I figured you were making that list up, to call out all the things this administration has done that hint at fascism. Having seen the citation, I now believe Trump may have used that list to make his agenda, cuz he hits just about every point. Read that list again, Trumpsters. Realize the error of your ways and vote for ANYONE else next time around. Those of us who oppose Fascism as a model for our government are counting on you.
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#992536 - 08/22/18 04:22 PM
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#992537 - 08/22/18 04:26 PM
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Not that facts are of much use to Magarglers, but here are some for you, anyway, if only to show what an idiot you are.
These are the 14 elements of fascism:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6. Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20)
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I realize I am speaking to the same Magargler who thinks that Muslim terrorists are fascists, only because Hannity keeps calling them that, but there are the elements of fascism.
You'll note that almost all of them require being a state actor, a government. People may support fascism and be fascists in ideology, but not just because Hank doesn't like them or Hannity says they are.
Anything on that list sound familiar? It should, it sound like the GOP these days, and you can thank Trump and his Magarglers for that.
Congrats.
Fish on...
Todd Before I read the citation, I figured you were making that list up, to call out all the things this administration has done that hint at fascism. Having seen the citation, I now believe Trump may have used that list to make his agenda, cuz he hits just about every point. Read that list again, Trumpsters. Realize the error of your ways and vote for ANYONE else next time around. Those of us who oppose Fascism as a model for our government are counting on you. You're talking to idiots who think Nazis were Socialists because the word was right there in the name. They aren't going to realize schit. Fish on... Todd
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#992538 - 08/22/18 04:39 PM
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In April 2017, two groups described as "anti-fascist/anarchist", including the socialist/environmentalist Direct Action Alliance, threatened to disrupt the 82nd Avenue of Roses Parade after hearing the Multnomah County Republican Party would participate.
i thought they werent the same?
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#992539 - 08/22/18 04:45 PM
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Not that facts are of much use to Magarglers, but here are some for you, anyway, if only to show what an idiot you are.
These are the 14 elements of fascism:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
6. Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20)
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I realize I am speaking to the same Magargler who thinks that Muslim terrorists are fascists, only because Hannity keeps calling them that, but there are the elements of fascism.
You'll note that almost all of them require being a state actor, a government. People may support fascism and be fascists in ideology, but not just because Hank doesn't like them or Hannity says they are.
Anything on that list sound familiar? It should, it sound like the GOP these days, and you can thank Trump and his Magarglers for that.
Congrats.
Fish on...
Todd Before I read the citation, I figured you were making that list up, to call out all the things this administration has done that hint at fascism. Having seen the citation, I now believe Trump may have used that list to make his agenda, cuz he hits just about every point. Read that list again, Trumpsters. Realize the error of your ways and vote for ANYONE else next time around. Those of us who oppose Fascism as a model for our government are counting on you. You're talking to idiots who think Nazis were Socialists because the word was right there in the name. They aren't going to realize schit. Fish on... Todd I fear you're right, but I have high hopes...or maybe I'm just high.... I ain't too proud to beg to save our democracy.
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#992543 - 08/22/18 05:59 PM
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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lol
This thread is gold, Jerry! Gold!
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#992545 - 08/23/18 08:15 AM
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To those die hard tinfoil hat wearers regarding the Russian/Trump collusion which was covered and spread by fake news----no collusion between the two----it didn’t happen.
An unverified dossier paid by Hillary and DNC to get a FISA warrant in a secret court has eventually led to spying on the opposition campaign all the way to the witch hunt that still continues today. These actions have been reported to the American people by various congressional oversight committees. The more these committees dig the more corruption they uncover.
The conduct of Mueller with unlimited scope by Rosenstein’s authority is denigration and disregard of what once was in America—because a crime was not named to investigate but instead looking for dirt on individuals and those around a central person.
Welcome to the new America ran by crooks in agencies trying frantically to cover their own crimes up-- not caring what rights and laws they trample on in the process to save their own necks…
The sooner Trump is impeached, the sooner it is back to business as usual unless the sealed indictments come into play, but as crooked as these people are—the indictments will probably get buried also.
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